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Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by tonyedgecombe on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @07:59AM (#3210535)
Actually I don't think it would have to cost much before the volume of spam plumetted. Just 1 cent per message would probably put off most spammers.
Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by tomjen3 on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @08:41AM (#3210654)
There is a proposal for a proof of work system that does not require the sender to pay direct monetary fees and does not, significantly, slow down sending emails since it can be computed while the sender is writing the email.

I can't remember what it is called, but I hope somebody else can chime in with the name.

The smart thing about it is that you can use it as a filter in your baysian spam filtering systems. That way it can be implemented gradually, with no need to cut out everybody who doesn't yet use it.

Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by throwaway64 on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @08:48AM (#3210683)
Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by eru on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @08:48AM (#3210685)
Nice, but it would impact legitimate mailing lists.

(In the 90s Bill Gates touted the idea that the recipient of the email would receive the fee, and routinely refund it to the sender for legitimate messages.)

Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by pixelcort on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @09:30AM (#3210825)
Wouldn't using the mailing list's email address in the hashcash algorithm work? Then the mailing list's server or recipients' clients' spam filters could utilize the hashcash header, comparing it to the mailing list address in the To field.

Mailing lists could even demand a lower hash target, requiring more energy to send messages to lists. This could rate-limit flame wars, for example.

Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by mike-cardwell on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @09:48AM (#3210900)
HashCash would make it more expensive for everybody to send email, not just spammers. It's also one of those things that doesn't really work unless everybody starts using it.

What are you going to do to emails without the HashCash header when 95% of the World is still sending email without it? Does it matter to anyone else what you do to those emails if you're the only one doing it?

Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by eru on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @10:49AM (#3211156)
HashCash would have some benefits, even if only a few people start using it, and would give incentives to participate: Just don't use it for a binary decision, but as one factor in your probabilistic spam filtering. And make the filter also discriminate on the amount of work put into the hash.
Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by baudehlo on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @04:45PM (#3212959)
Spam filtering is already 99.x% effective. So you're basically increasing the cost for everyone in order to gain one extra SpamAssassin rule?

There are plenty of reasons why "Payment" anti-spam methods have been soundly debunked over the years. You're not the first one to think it's a good idea, and you probably won't be the last, but do the research yourself first into why they can't work.

Re:Port 25 will be blocked for South Korea from December by mike-cardwell on Tuesday November 08, 2011 @08:21AM (#3210593)
We'd still be left with a spam problem. Just a smaller one. And it would be nigh on impossible to implement and co-ordinate such a change.