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Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by bryanlarsen on Thursday July 14, 2022 @04:53PM (#32101316)
In the short term, all the fundamentals of the economy are doing well -- unemployment rate, corporate profits, wages are up, et cetera.

Sure the stock market is doing poorly. The stock market isn't the economy.

Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by kart23 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @05:33PM (#32101725)
the gini coefficient disagrees. The US is the most unequal developed country, and continues to become more inequal. billionaires pay a lower effective tax rate than the bottom half of earners. if you think the economy includes all americans, then we’re doing horribly imo.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/10/08/first-tim...

Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by agent008t on Friday July 15, 2022 @09:44AM (#32108118)
Yet it used to be possible to buy a house and support a family with children on a single income, and now you would struggle to do it on two incomes. That does not sound like a big success for the economy to me.

Perhaps a reason to be optimistic is that this trend will reverse, but it is hard to see a road to that. In the medium term, we are looking at a large population of retirees to be supported by a dwindling working population, that are also faced with servicing a massive debt that the older generation accumulated; at the same time faced by a rising challenger nation. That sounds like it could be dreadful, actually.

Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by bryanlarsen on Friday July 15, 2022 @10:43AM (#32108693)
You used to be able to buy an 800 square foot house on a single middle class income, live on spam and potatoes, et cetera. It's still possible to buy a mobile home, eat spam and potatoes and support a family on a single middle class income.
Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by agent008t on Friday July 15, 2022 @10:57AM (#32108832)
The two scenarios are not comparable. For example, they would result in very different social environments, different access to education, employment etc.
Re:Ask HN: What makes you optimistic about the future? by bryanlarsen on Friday July 15, 2022 @03:21PM (#32111816)
You're right, the 2022 child would have vastly improved access to education. Mostly, but not entirely, due to the Internet.