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Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by kriops on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:42AM (#32097510)
> (...) there should be heavy state intervention (...)

This has been tried so many times throughout different cultures and time periods, and by different means. It will not benefit whoever is actually living on the properties, but will detract from their situation.

Economics in One Lesson by Henry Hazlitt has several concrete examples of attempted interventions, and is written to give a basic intuition on why this happens (Spoiler: Opportunity costs).

The only permanent solution is just to build more buildings, or at a political level simply making it easier to build new buildings, which directly increases supply and thus causes the lowering of prices. This makes perfect sense when you think about it: There are not enough buildings, so we need to have more buildings.

Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by eej71 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:57AM (#32097712)
It continues to be disappointing to see so many people turn to state power as a solution to the problem of scarcity. Scarcity is solved through production not political power.
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by rcpt on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:41PM (#32098357)
Can't produce more land. Best we can do is tax people for hoarding it
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by kriops on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:12PM (#32098803)
Best we can do is certainly not increase the cost of land, and thus increase the required price of rent/housing to break even.

Less regulatory obstacles to increase supply, i.e. build housing, is the correct answer.

Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by rcpt on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:21PM (#32098915)
Land Value Tax would decrease the cost of land as it makes land speculation less attractive. People won't be willing to bet on much on real estate if increased prices come with a tax penalty.
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by colinmhayes on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:19PM (#32100384)
Land value tax reduces the cost of the land needed for housing since it incentivizes density. Building taller means each person lives on less land.
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by idoh on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:18PM (#32100371)
You can increase density.
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by system16 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @03:20PM (#32100400)
That's a pretty broad assessment.

It's not without its flaws, but Singapore has an extremely effective public housing program run by the government's Housing & Development Board (HDB) where 89.9% of Singaporeans are homeowners.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/664518/home-ownership-ra...

The "just build more" supply argument doesn't hold water when you have an unlimited source of demand from institutional investors and speculators that use housing as a place to park their money.

Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by daenz on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:13PM (#32097937)
Isn't the heavy state intervention already here in the form of zoning?
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by kriops on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:24PM (#32098096)
Those are not even the only regulations, but you are absolutely right. Hence the prices.
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by Kaze404 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @06:23PM (#32102141)
Isn't "just build more" what we've been doing for decades, and exactly how we got into the situation we're in now?
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by EricDeb on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:13PM (#32098808)
but what if they just build more 1000ft tall buildings with only 40 uber-luxury units? how does that help?
Re:Manhattan rents cross $5k threshold for first time by hpkuarg on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:54PM (#32099345)
It sounds like incentives in Manhattan are stacked in a way that 1000ft tall buildings with only 40 uber-luxury units are the only kind of buildings that can be profitably built.