Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by coryrc on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:33PM
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> quickly reveal their flaws once lived in and used
Compared to a Gehry building that's flawed before the first occupant even steps foot inside, that sounds pretty good :)
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by tptacek on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:24AM
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I live in Oak Park and haven't really heard of any of these money pits. Can you give me some links?
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by balsam on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:02PM
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https://chicago.curbed.com/maps/oak-park-frank-lloyd-wright-...
Promises 25 places on the map.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by tptacek on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:16PM
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There are obviously plenty of Wright buildings in Oak Park; we're famous for it. I'm wondering about the infamous money pits.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by balsam on Friday July 15, 2022 @02:46AM
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Sorry. I thought it was well known since Veblen that that Mid-Western civilization was all about the blatant-not-blatant money pits.
Okay, here’s one about the latest in a long tradition of remodelling:
https://www.oakpark.com/2022/02/16/how-do-you-remodel-wright...
Alludes to longstanding issues with adapting prarie-inspired visuals to the local climate.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by tptacek on Friday July 15, 2022 @05:43PM
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That's not what a "money pit" is. It's not a "money pit" when you decide to gut-renovate the place, nor when you flip it for $500k more than you bought it for.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by AlbertCory on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:35PM
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I've been there & seen the houses.
newspapers.com is your resource for stuff that's not on The Google. Searching is much harder, though. You kinda need to know the dates things were published.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by reaperducer on Thursday July 14, 2022 @12:29PM
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No, because I read it in the dead tree editions of newspapers and magazines. But there's a thing called Google that might be of some use to you.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by tptacek on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:18PM
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I did that before I asked, and found a Wright house 2 blocks from where I grew up (in Beverly, not Oak Park) that was a "money pit", because the previous owners had built an addition and plastered around the interior, and they decided to restore it and add period-appropriate window decorations. I didn't find any references to money pit Wright houses in Oak Park.
I'm the weirdo who actually reads our local newspapers, for what it's worth. Like I said, I actually live here.
Re:Frank Gehry has a few things to get off his chest
by tedunangst on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:26PM
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For those of us too stupid to guess the appropriate search terms to get relevant results, would you kindly offer up some hints?
Your supposition runs counter to what has been documented many times by many industry publications and general purpose newspapers.
I know about ten very good architects who work on very large projects around the world. Two of whom would deserve to be called "starchitects," if they were interested in self-promotion. Wright is well-known in the professional architecture world as someone whose buildings are great when the go up, but quickly reveal their flaws once lived in and used.
The Imperial Hotel in Japan survived a massive 1923 Tokyo earthquake due to several design decisions made by Wright
One building out of over a thousand. Oak Park, Illinois has no shortage of homes that have become well-publicized money pits because of Mr. Wright's choices.
Heck, his very famous Fallingwater house is considered one of his crowning achievements, but is also a spectacular failure. He built it over a waterfall, and didn't take humidity into consideration. He built it in Pennsylvania and didn't take winter into consideration. Defects in the concrete floor designs were noted even during construction. Nothing to do with age.