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Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by mkl on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @06:36PM (#32089596)
That's pretty much a totally different category of employee, though: "Tesla is laying off 229 data annotation employees who are part of the company’s larger Autopilot team [...] Most of the workers were in moderately low-skilled, low-wage jobs, such as Autopilot data labeling"

Data annotation can be cheaply outsourced or scaled up and down without much affecting progress on self-driving. Karpathy leaving says more about that progress to me.

Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by xeromal on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @06:45PM (#32089676)
On top of that, this might signal that Tesla is confident enough in their autolabeling that they no longer need as much human intervention. This job title theoretically should be temporary.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by cheeselip420 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @06:49PM (#32089710)
lol - FSD is a scam, and the reckoning is here.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by jacobjr23 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:21PM (#32089969)
I don't think it's a scam, it's just a really hard problem that will take years or decades longer than originally promised.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by pcbro141 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:54PM (#32090669)
It’s a scam when you’re taking people’s money for it and it doesn’t exist and keep extending the release date.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by dekhn on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:05PM (#32090313)
ah, the theranos defense
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by BbzzbB on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @10:31PM (#32091336)
The Theranos playbook would be plugging Cruise under the hood and saying it's Autopilot or FSD controlling the car.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by xeromal on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:18PM (#32089943)
Idk, does the job for me. Bought it to make my commute easier and it reduces the mental load required to drive in LA traffic.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by pm90 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @08:30PM (#32090480)
autopilot != FSD

I agree that autopilot by itself, currently is still pretty valuable. What I worry about (and seems to be confirmed) is that Musk misunderstands what’s possible with the current technology and will make outrageous demands from the team, they will fuck up trying to deliver, then the whole thing will become radioactive.

Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by xeromal on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @09:16PM (#32090823)
I could totally see that happening. We've definitely had updates that cause more problems than help.
Re:Andrej Karpathy leaves Tesla by visarga on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:26AM (#32092347)
> Data annotation can be cheaply outsourced or scaled up

Only if you don't care about quality. In my experience using annotation companies leads to a conflict of interest - annotate more to earn more, or annotate better.