Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected

Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by eru on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @10:38AM (#32083382)

> [...] we've entered a world-wide inflationary death spiral driven [...]

Not all countries are experiencing high inflation at the moment.

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by titzer on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @10:42AM (#32083433)

https://www.ft.com/content/088d3368-bb8b-4ff3-9df7-a7680d4d8...

Vast majority.

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by eru on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @10:44AM (#32083461)

Yes, many countries. But not all.

Which suggests that persistently high inflation is caused by the same thing it's always caused: (local) money printing.

Not some abstract worries about excessive (?) debt or 'fraudsters' etc or so.

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by Aunche on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @11:08AM (#32083748)

Japan has always been the leader in money printing, yet they're also experiencing the least inflation.

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by ethbr0 on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @01:34PM (#32086022)

Japan is an economic outlier in a lot of ways (i.e. savings and birth/immigration rates).

And I think it's a great example that most of the actual drivers of economic outcomes are unmeasurable. What we actually measure and react to are themselves second order effects of those primary drivers.

Which is why we can compare two situations with similar (second order) metrics (but different primary drivers) and be puzzled by different macro outcomes.

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by BlueTemplar on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @07:39PM (#32090116)

I think instead is that the mistake was to measure them in terms of money, which is a token, a signal, and hence not "real" (not to mention subject to feedback loops when trying to focus economic policy on that signal !)

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by eru on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @11:56PM (#32091830)

As you suggest, it's important to make a clear distinction between nominal and real variables in economics.

However, nominal variables are also subject to feedback loops.

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Re:Inflation rose 9.1% in June, even more than expected by eru on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @11:55PM (#32091826)

That's because they haven't printed enough money.

If they printed enough money, they could generate all the inflation they wanted (or live in economic utopia.)

Basically, keep using newly printed money to buy up assets around the world. At some point you either own the globe, or you'll get the inflation you wanted.

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