I love it, as long as it worked good, it was awesome. People that were poorer didn't have inferior public health insurance.

That is a system I want to live in. Since the locust capitalists took over (11th January 1987!) it is going downhill though.

Of course I can afford one of best health care, for me, but I want a social system, not an asocial one.

Oh yeah, definitely. The security net is great. And I get that for it to work, it needs to be paid for.

I think that the downwards movement is more based in the population aging though.

And the reason I hate it, is literally because there is no opt out at all. Hell, I'd use the public option if there were an opt out because it works well enough for me.

I would rather be able not to be part of a Kammer.

Leading my own company I hate having to pay the Wirtschaftskammer a mandatory fee.

I don't need those lobbyists!

>Wirtschaftskammer

Yeah, from what I've read, they are pretty awful in terms of costs/benefits.

Get ready to pay for the Church in Switzerland :D