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Re:Talking about layoffs by chrisseaton on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @03:43AM (#32066767)
> You get your notice time, and you get paid until your actual termination date, but you spend that time at home ("freigestellt").

Isn’t the US model of severance pay better because you can take a new job while in your severance period.

Re:Talking about layoffs by rob74 on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:03AM (#32066863)
There is that option too: if they want to get rid of you specifically (as opposed to just "reducing the headcount"), but the regulations say they can't legally get rid of you because they would e.g. have to get rid of people that were hired after you first, they can offer you an "Aufhebungsvertrag" ("termination/severance agreement") where you voluntarily agree to your employment being terminated in exchange for a (often quite sizable) sum of money.
Re:Talking about layoffs by chrisseaton on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @04:54AM (#32067241)
> they would e.g. have to get rid of people that were hired after you first

What’s the thinking behind this one? These rules are insane.

Re:Talking about layoffs by MrBuddyCasino on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @05:43AM (#32067596)
> These rules are insane.

They are. Its the result of shallow thinking, socialism and pure graft. People don't consider there are considerable downsides to these regulations, and simply think "protecting the workers" is good.

Re:Talking about layoffs by chrisseaton on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:08AM (#32067768)
How is ‘last in first out’ protecting workers?
Re:Talking about layoffs by Tainnor on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:46AM (#32067998)
older people tend to be less employable
Re:Talking about layoffs by chrisseaton on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:58AM (#32068096)
But it’s not ‘older’ it’s longer at the company. If they wanted older why not say that?
Re:Talking about layoffs by Tainnor on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @06:43AM (#32067977)
Worker protection laws in Germany have a long history and were first established in the 19th century, not exactly an era associated with socialism.
Re:Talking about layoffs by MrBuddyCasino on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @08:38AM (#32068964)
Marx & the industrial revolution would like a word with you.
Re:Talking about layoffs by Tainnor on Tuesday July 12, 2022 @09:17AM (#32069456)
Marxism was a fringe ideology without any real political power before 1905, probably even before 1917.