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Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by namlem on Monday July 11, 2022 @12:54PM (#32058624)
It will probably just lead to a rise in VPNs to access services that block British users.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by antonymy on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:11PM (#32058821)
My immediate thought as well. As this law will apply to ANY service available to UK users the only feasible solution for smaller websites and app developers will be exclusion to avoid liability. So UK users will simply start using VPNs to by pass region blocks.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by jfk13 on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:30PM (#32059062)
Ah, the familiar HN bubble, where people instinctively think of "simply start using VPNs" as the solution.

No; some tiny minority of UK users may do that, but the overwhelming majority will just use whatever services are "approved" (follow whatever rules they have to, to stay in the market) and remain available by default.

Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by chongli on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:50PM (#32059336)
Loads of people in China use VPNs every day to bypass the great firewall and access foreign sites. They even rotate among many different VPN services when the ones they’re using get blocked.

I see no reason UK users couldn’t do the same. All it takes to get grandma on a VPN is for an enterprising grandson to set her up.

Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by JacobThreeThree on Monday July 11, 2022 @05:09PM (#32061900)
>Loads of people in China use VPNs every day to bypass the great firewall and access foreign sites.

For what it's worth, in my experience when I was in China it was trivial to bypass the firewall using a VPN service.

Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by oxfordmale on Monday July 11, 2022 @04:04PM (#32061065)
My twelve year old son told me very casually a few months ago that he had installed a VPN to bypass the schools internet filters. It was clearly no big deal to him, it sounds like that is what all his friends are doing. At home they are of course doing this to bypass any parent filters to allow them to look at certain content.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by systems_glitch on Monday July 11, 2022 @07:55PM (#32063801)
I suppose this is the new "google dorking for open CGI proxies."
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by pbhjpbhj on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:28PM (#32059845)
Are there any YouTube users who still haven't heard of a VPN? They seem about as niche as TikTok at this point.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by flir on Monday July 11, 2022 @06:32PM (#32062962)
Funnily enough I had to explain what a VPN is to one of my kids this weekend.

But... if the need's there, people figure it out (as he's doing right now - for him it's something gaming related).

Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by antonymy on Monday July 11, 2022 @04:23PM (#32061306)
A VPN is a service that people who are not privacy conscious (which is most people) tend to only use if they have a particular need for it, such as circumventing a region block for some service they want to use. This isn't a very common problem for the average person living in Britain right now, but it's about to be. So I think it's pretty fair to assert VPN usage is going to become more common, as it is a pre-existing, ready-made solution to the problem millions of British people are about to have.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by pessimizer on Monday July 11, 2022 @05:07PM (#32061874)
There are literally network television commercials that advertise VPNs now, and they've written software to make setup trivial.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by iasay on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:46PM (#32059285)
I don’t think that’s the case. I know someone who has no involvement in anything technical in his entire life and is using VPNs and torrents fine. He can surely work it out if demand requires it.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by weq on Monday July 11, 2022 @11:50PM (#32065387)
Are you living under a rock? Do you not see whats happening in China? Go checkout youtube... You can see clearly what happens when the gov finally has total control... (after a few years of everyone bypassing, they will make using a VPN the punishable by death). First they did it with illicit drugs, created a wide wide laws to control the social classes, now the socail classes are easier to target more wholistically via the internet because everyone is dependant on it.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by vorticalbox on Monday July 11, 2022 @01:56PM (#32059417)
> If there is any hope, it lies in the proles.
Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by corobo on Monday July 11, 2022 @03:51PM (#32060907)
Sucks to be us idiots that happen to be working on tech businesses in the UK.

I wonder if I can put an IP block on my own site and just ignore it all too. Dumbass country.

Re:Your compliance obligations under the UK’s Online Safety ... by LAC-Tech on Monday July 11, 2022 @09:20PM (#32064409)
Congratulations Britain, you are now the Peoples Republic of China.