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Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by shmerl on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:21PM (#32048603)
I don't see a lot of differences really in regards to the question of doing business with such regimes which equals to aiding their war.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by ithkuil on Sunday July 10, 2022 @05:01PM (#32048997)
perhaps the worry is that if Europe collapses, we may discover some of the members actually align with Putin? That's the nature of democracy, all it takes is a candidate (which we usually label as "populist") to leverage the resentment of the hardship endured because of being anti-putin.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by heavenlyblue on Sunday July 10, 2022 @06:50PM (#32049980)
In Eastern European countries this resentment almost surely already exists through some sort of “Russia’s Phoenix resurrected from the ashes”
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by ithkuil on Monday July 11, 2022 @03:26AM (#32053275)
I was more thinking about countries like Italy, that don't feel a direct threat from Russia; quite the contrary they feel they have everything to lose by keeping the current stance.

I have a declared fascist father in law, and he sided with Putin from the very start (his opinions are generally an unimaginative mirror of what he reads in the major Italian newspaper he reads)

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by mantas on Monday July 11, 2022 @02:57AM (#32053100)
Coming from Eastern Europe... Here the fear is that Western Europe will end up in bed with Putin and sell us off.

Here anti-Russian notion was written in genes in cruel ways for generations

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by heavenlyblue on Monday July 18, 2022 @09:53AM (#32138382)
See since you have Lithuanian name I know for sure a lot of Lithuanian liberal youth whose parents still habitually watch Russian television, so I am not sure what you are talking about in regards to that "anti-Russian notion in genes", that's just plainly not true.
Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by mantas on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @06:30AM (#32149672)
Part of older generation does live in Russian media sphere. Tiny part of younger generation too. But combined that's definitely not a big part.

There're plenty of polls about views on Russian-Ukraine war. And views are pretty one sided.

Another division is people who were moved here by soviet government. It's not uncommon that the old generation, born outside of Lithuania, lives in Russian media, sometimes not even speaking Lithuanian after decades of living here. Yet their (grand)children are well integrated into Lithuanian society, including anti-Russian notion.

.... and then we have our own bunch of Russofiles for various reasons. Including among youth, and even what you'd call liberal youth. Some famous people now do incredible stunts to cover pre-Russian-invasion actions. While others stick to their guns.

Re:Russian gas flows to Europe by gambiting on Sunday July 10, 2022 @04:42PM (#32048792)
Agreed.