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Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by slazaro on Sunday July 10, 2022 @07:24AM (#32043698)
99%+ of people wouldn't use this, they would just try the search engine, see that the results suck, then stop using it.

It could be useful for power users, though.

Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by lrvick on Sunday July 10, 2022 @08:03AM (#32043911)
99%+ of people in the medical industry did not sanitize hands or equipment 100 years ago.

99%+ of people in the tech industry currently do not care to do the extra steps required for data neutrality, and privacy.

99%+ of people are lazy to the point of harming themselves and others.

1%- of people examine how the 99%+ do things and pioneer harm reduction tactics in spite of everyone constantly reminding them that no one wants their help.

Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by permo-w on Sunday July 10, 2022 @10:11AM (#32044936)
>99%+ of people in the medical industry did not sanitize hands or equipment 100 years ago.

this isn't true. 170 years ago, maybe. handwashing became a thing in the late 1800s after Semmelweiss and Pasteur

Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by lrvick on Sunday July 10, 2022 @07:05PM (#32050122)
I will adjust this analogy by 70 years in the future, just for you.
Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by viach on Sunday July 10, 2022 @08:49AM (#32044236)
99% of analogies are correct
Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by codedokode on Sunday July 10, 2022 @08:57AM (#32044282)
Why should we care about 99% of people? They are people who upload all their personal data to social networks agreeing to "we can do whatever we want" terms, they pay with a card, use Apple's and Microsoft's spyware (which marketing people call "telemetry") ridden operating systems, and install Chrome that sends a signal to Google every time they open a new tab and sends data about every form on every website they visit (which Google developers call "crowdsourcing" in the code [1]).

Make a customizable and privacy-respecting search for us, power users.

Also, I have noticed that Firefox internal search works good for sites you had visited. So when I want to visit a page I have seen earlier, I can go straight to it skipping Google.

Also, you can click on any search box and add it with a prefix, so that you can search MDN or Wikipedia directly, again, without informing Google.

[1] https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:com...

Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by Brybry on Sunday July 10, 2022 @08:27AM (#32044074)
20% to 40% of internet users use an adblocker depending on whose statistics you use.[1][2][3]

SEO is basically another form of advertising, so evidence suggests to me that people would use something like this.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_blocking#:~:text=users

[2] https://earthweb.com/how-many-people-use-ad-blockers/

[3] https://www.insiderintelligence.com/insights/ad-blocking

Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by liftm on Sunday July 10, 2022 @09:54AM (#32044800)
A quick, entirely unrepresentative look at the user count for uBlock Origin and uBlacklist in Firefox make me somewhat less optimistic than you are. Or is there a more popular way of blocking sites from search results than uBlacklist out there, which I simply don't know about?
Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by Brybry on Monday July 11, 2022 @04:45PM (#32061571)
uBlock Origin and Adblock Plus are the most popular extensions on Firefox, with each around 5 to 5.5 million average daily users over a whole year[1].

I believe the addon page is average daily users over a week or 6 days?[2]

Firefox monthly active users (unique over 28 days) is around 200 to 210 million worldwide (26 to 22 million in the USA)[3].

It's probably wrong to compare those numbers but a very naive 200 / 28 = 7.41 million average unique users per day. 5 / 7.41 = 67% (probably wrong)

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/firefoxs-most-popular-innova...

[2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1168642

[3] https://data.firefox.com/dashboard/user-activity

Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by christophilus on Sunday July 10, 2022 @08:04AM (#32043919)
Add a thumbs up / down icon, and your average Facebook user would likely use it without knowing what it was.
Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by april_22 on Sunday July 10, 2022 @08:31AM (#32044098)
More and more search engines are now giving you the option to customize search results. Brave has Goggles, You.com has thumbs up / down icon and other alternative search engines have similiar capabilites too. I have been really enjoying the ability to tailor my search to how I like it and e.g. rank reddit (although it seems like it is not liked by some folks here) higher.
Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by skeeter2020 on Sunday July 10, 2022 @10:57AM (#32045351)
why would a search engine use this for a different purpose than FB does?
Re:The world needs a non-profit search engine by fauigerzigerk on Sunday July 10, 2022 @07:52AM (#32043847)
It could work like spam filtering. Once a certain number of users have marked a site as spammy (or put it on their blacklist), it gets downranked for everyone. But jstummbillig is right. It could easily get gamed.