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Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by chii on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:03AM (#32023441)
> must take more dramatic measures to prevent it from falling into the hands of some regime

the pen used for voting has more power than a gun to prevent the US from falling into the hands of "some regime".

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by rayiner on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:24AM (#32023605)
The guns are for when the pen doesn’t work: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangladesh_Liberation_War

“The situation reached a climax in 1970, when the Bangladesh Awami League, the largest East Pakistani political party, led by Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, won a landslide victory in the national elections. The party won 167 of the 169 seats allotted to East Pakistan, and thus a majority of the 313 seats in the National Assembly. This gave the Awami League the constitutional right to form a government. However, Zulfikar Ali Bhutto (a former Foreign Minister), the leader of the Pakistan People's Party, refused to allow Rahman to become the Prime Minister of Pakistan.”

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by lonesword on Friday July 08, 2022 @04:53AM (#32024559)
From the wikipedia link:

>The Bangladeshi Declaration of Independence was broadcast from Chittagong by members of the Mukti Bahini—the national liberation army formed by Bengali military, paramilitary and civilians. The East Bengal Regiment and the East Pakistan Rifles played a crucial role in the resistance. Led by General M. A. G. Osmani and eleven sector commanders, the Bangladesh Forces waged a mass guerrilla war against the Pakistani military.

The Bangladeshi military organized the resistance. It was not a simple civilians-with-guns-rising-against-tyranny scenario.

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by rayiner on Friday July 08, 2022 @04:46PM (#32026803)
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mukti_Bahini

"The 'Mukti Bahini' was divided into two groups; the 'Niomito Bahini' – or 'regular forces' – who came from the paramilitary, military and police forces of East Pakistan, and the Gonnobahini – or 'people's forces' – who were civilians. These names were given and defined by the Government of Bangladesh. ... Civilians took control of arms depots in various cities and began resisting Pakistani forces with the acquired weapons supply."

Remember there was no "Bangladeshi military" at the time. It was the Pakistani military. The East Pakistan Rifles, for example, had maintained loyalty to Pakistan until Pakistan went too far in suppressing the revolt.

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by cowtools on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:22AM (#32023584)
"The pen is mightier than the sword" is a stupid idea. The pen has no power on its own. A regime will throw out your ballots.
Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by dredmorbius on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:52AM (#32023787)
The full context of the line is:

Beneath the rule of men entirely great

The pen is mightier than the sword.

That is, the power of the pen is premised on power in arms being equal.

The line comes from Edward Bulwer-Lytton, of "It was a dark and stormy night" fame. It appears in the play Richelieu; Or the Conspiracy, about Cardinal Richelieu a/k/a a/k/a Armand Jean du Plessis, Cardinal-Duc de Richelieu et de Fronsac, who may have a line or two on the power of words to his fame (or at least ascribed) as well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pen_is_mightier_than_the_s...

Re:Former Japan PM Shinzo Abe Unconscious After Shooting; Ma... by voakbasda on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:17AM (#32023549)
One could argue the US has already fallen, and guns are the only way we are going to get it back. Of course, that’s not a popular opinion, but try to take guns away from the citizens and it will be.