Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU antitrust investigation

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by KerrAvon on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:26AM (#32023151)

Either the lack of technical literacy on the EU’s part is a real issue, or the EU wants non-European tech companies to fold up their Euro tents completely and stop selling their products in EU countries. That’s the logical end result of this and the gatekeeper nonsense.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by hetspookjee on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:36AM (#32023231)

Given the compromises the Apple is willing to make to keep their foot in China’s market, you can be sure that neither of the big tech companies is willing to give up on the EU market. Let alone allow the vacuum to be scooped up by a more favourable tech company.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by caramelcustard on Friday July 08, 2022 @03:36AM (#32023953)

Yep, perhaps if Apple/Google decided to be more hesitant to work with more difficult markets all of this wouldn't happen.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by neither_color on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:43AM (#32023280)

Those who can no longer innovate regulate.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by volgar1x on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:35AM (#32024835)

Europeans do innovate, they just sell to GAFAM afterwards. (-:

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by lvass on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:38AM (#32023246)

Sisvel is pledging for 0.1~0.3 euros on AV1-capable hardware here, europe has done much worse (like with the OOXML standard) and unfortunately got away with it. This doesn't particularly affect the EU as a market, it's applied globally.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by RF_Savage on Saturday July 09, 2022 @10:07AM (#32035208)

That's quite a lot on some 0.5-3eur SoC. No wonder it is being fought and why nothing cheap has AV1 hardware.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by caramelcustard on Friday July 08, 2022 @03:33AM (#32023927)

I doubt that EU wants companies to leave the market and they don't seem to encourage the growth of profitable European competitors to Google/Apple, so most likely it's the literacy issue and on top of that they're "surveying the grounds" to see how far can they go.

I mean, i would understand if the "gatekeeper" stuff was pushed by countries/organizations that have little to no manufacturing prowess, but it's Europe we're talking about and there's no way that the EU doesn't understand what they're doing (unless...).

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by spoonjim on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:48AM (#32023333)

Neither. The EU just wants to shake as much money out of the tree as possible given that growing the trees domestically has not really worked out.

[ Parent | on HN ]

Re:Apple, Google, Facebook's AV1 standards group under EU an... by makeitdouble on Friday July 08, 2022 @08:36AM (#32026448)

Genuinely, which company/entity in the world has full technical literacy in your eyes ? China ?

[ Parent | on HN ]