Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots
by lovich on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:44PM
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It is as gibberish as your original comment read to me. There’s this undercurrent in your arguments that Russia was always going to do this, like an inevitable force of nature, and Ukraine just has to/ had to get out of the way.
If you don’t hold that assumption, like myself, then your viewpoint seems absurd
Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots
by tsimionescu on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:30PM
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Russia was never going to allow Ukraine to become a de facto or de jure NATO ally. If you don't accept this as something as close to a fact as nature as anything can be in international politics, I don't know what you would accept.
So, Ukraine has a choice: seek to join NATO knowing that will eventually lead to conflict with Russia, but hoping you can beat them. Or, seek to attain a neutral status, where they can forge their own path between NATO and Russia, maybe on a model similar to Finland.
The option of peacefully joining NATO simply doesn't exist. Empires will never willingly allow anything like that, if they have any semblance of power to prevent it.
Note that the Baltic countries, who also share a land border with Russia, joined NATO at a time when Russia was so weak it could simply not do anything about it.
Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots
by CamperBob2 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:52PM
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Russia was never going to allow Ukraine to become a de facto or de jure NATO ally.
Who asked them?
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Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots
by lovich on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:56PM
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And here’s the real kicker, the US would have been as crazy if they started acting like the Solomon Islands should have just capitulated and can’t understand why they might resist. When we dominate other peoples we at least recognize they didn’t welcome the yoke
Of course Russia would have been better off if they (and NATO) had been willing to negotiate.
Russia is not "goaded on" by Putin, it is directly controlled. They also don't care too much about the Ukrainians they are killing or hurting.
If Ukraine backs off, there's not much NATO can do about it - except perhaps start working on regime change in Ukraine.
> Of course, it will also empower Putin, which is what Putin and the Oligarchs actually want. Russia fell right into their trap, and thinks they are being helped empowered.
I don't unbeatable what these words are supposed to mean.