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Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots by tsimionescu on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:30PM (#32019720)
Afghanistan was asking for proof that Bin Laden was to blame, and had offered to set up some common courts to decide on the matter - as was their right as a sovereign nation.

The invasion of Serbia was much more morally justified, as it helped stop a genocide that Slobodan Milosevic was committing against the Islamic Albanian minority, mainly in Kosovo.

Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots by lovich on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:36PM (#32019789)
The only rights you have a sovereign nation are what you can support by strength of arms or diplomacy. Rights are protected by common governments and there is no world government both the US and Afghanistan were party to.

As far as NATO is concerned another party punched a member in the face and and the defensive pact responded as they had laid out in their public treaties. If other nations want to construe that as not a real attack and the defensive pact needed to take it slow and capitulate the the internal legal demands of an aggressor state, that’s a position they can take. They are however, going to be repeatedly surprised when NATO doesn’t take that stance under advisement

Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots by tsimionescu on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:54PM (#32020004)
There is no way to construe the Afghani government as an aggressor in an attack involving 15-20 people who were led by a Saudi noble who happened to live in Afghanistan, and who wasn't even established at the time as the definite mastermind. Furthermore, there was significant internal pressure in Afghanistan to give up Bin Laden, including from the main religious authorities. Instead of waiting for this to Halen, the US simply invaded, barely a few weeks after the attack.

NATO acquiesced to the invasion because the USA was out for blood, and their closest toadies weren't about to get in the cross hairs.

Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots by lovich on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:58PM (#32020063)
That is a viewpoint none of the NATO members shared or they wouldn’t have responded to the Article 5. There’s no ifs ands or buts about it. Their end decision was that it was a valid reason to attack as a bloc.
Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots by tsimionescu on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:54PM (#32020703)
Again, most NATO counties and leaders are US sycophants. That they acquiesced to an obvious absurdity to do the bidding of the USA is not surprising, and definitely not evidence that the arguments weren't absurd. Most of the same countries beleieved the CIA fabrications about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq as well.

Look outside the NATO sphere and very few countries actually agree with the US justification for the war.

Re:Vision-based AI drones outfly world-class human pilots by lovich on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:58PM (#32021727)
You know what, this is all just your opinion at this point man. We’re looking at the same picture and seeing different colors. If it’s coming down to that then it’s gonna be shit for you and the other Russians because they lack the ability to gain anything but a Pyrrhic victory.

Even if they are planning on showing the “immoral lengths” they are willing to go, all they’ve done is drive more nations into their enemies arms.

Edit: also lol did you really bring up that countries outside NATO didn’t agree with their decision making in a thread where you’re arguing that Russia had to do this invasion and everyone should have just let them?

You must be in incredible shape with how frequently you move these goalposts