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A comment on LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence does not cite prior work. Parent comment

Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by jacquesm on Thursday July 07, 2022 @08:32AM (#32013192)
Yes, like Watson & Crick and lots of others have shown over the years by lighting the way with proper accreditation. /s

Science is a means to an end, the 'giving proper credit' bit has been under fire since the day that someone figured out that citations can bestow fame (hardly every fortune) and given the low stakes it is to be expected that that is the battleground. But the number of PhD students that have been screwed out of proper credit to further aggrandize their academic masters can probably not be enumerated any more, so let's not pretend that proper credit is the coin that makes academia function.

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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by Banana699 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:33PM (#32016129)
>Yes, like Watson & Crick and lots of others have shown over the years by lighting the way with proper accreditation. /s

This just in: A wrong thing become right when famous people (allegedly) do it. More at 9.

And that's aside from the fact that you're wrong on the particular case of W&C.

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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by Dylan16807 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @02:19PM (#32017460)
> This just in: A wrong thing become right when famous people (allegedly) do it. More at 9.

I'm pretty sure the claim was that it's not so "fundamental", not about right or wrong.

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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by dekhn on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:08AM (#32015070)
Watson and Crick gave all necessary and proper attributions.
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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by aeontech on Thursday July 07, 2022 @11:32AM (#32015372)
The parent is referring to the fact that Watson and Crick relied on work of Rosalind Franklin without crediting her.
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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by radford-neal on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:02PM (#32015727)
Watson and Crick's 1953 Nature paper says "We have also been stimulated by a knowledge of the general nature of the unpublished experimental results and ideas of Dr. M. H. F. Wilkins, Dr. R. E. Franklin and their co-workers at King's College, London."
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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by dekhn on Thursday July 07, 2022 @01:09PM (#32016601)
Also, Franklin's paper follows W&C in Nature: https://www.mskcc.org/teaser/1953-nature-papers-watson-crick...
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Re:LeCun's 2022 paper on autonomous machine intelligence doe... by dekhn on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:09PM (#32015815)
I know what they meant. The W&C paper literally thanks her for her work. Stop spreading falsehoods.
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