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Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by maest on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @05:47AM (#31998744)
But it's problematic to assume these problems are in a 0-context vacuum because that would mean your actions don't actually have consequences. If the world ends immediately at the end of the experiment, then your choices in the experiment don't have any meaning, imo.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by akvadrako on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @06:20AM (#31998945)
That is an extreme consequentialist view. Something I can relate to, but not how most people consider moral issues.

If you are in a burning, sinking ship and all going to die for sure, it's still immoral to rape someone.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Etherlord87 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:13PM (#32003052)
However if you're in a plane nose-diving vertically, shooting someone a second before the plane hits the ground (in a way that obviously is going to kill everyone), hardly has any moral relevancy. It's taking 1s of life from someone, probably comparable to smoking a cig near someone. More so, this is a low-quality second of life, with all the stress coming from the awareness of imminent death.

So the argument still stands, the difference in the consequences, when considered outside of any context, is simply not worth the mental effort to figure out if the lever should be pulled. The exercise is only interesting because it provokes to think about real life scenarios.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Spivak on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @06:27PM (#32007656)
Right but if you ask someone whether that situation is murder I bet most people would say yes. And I bet they would apply the same logic to someone on death row or with a terminal illness.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by egeozcan on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @06:25AM (#31998986)
Well, there's always the heat death of the universe, rendering everything meaningless.