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Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by yellowapple on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:10AM (#31996947)
And they cost $300k apiece, which seems like a bargain in the context of the average public works project.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by labster on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:45AM (#31997958)
So the real lesson is that we need more trolleys!

Actually streetcars are kind of a bargain because they use mostly existing infrastructure. But that’s the downside too, because they can easily get stuck in traffic. The LA Red Car system died in the end because without its own right-of-way, it was worse than cars, less convenient than buses.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by mcv on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @04:52AM (#31998391)
Then give them their own right-of-way. Amsterdam trams go through the streets, but you're not supposed to block them. They often have their own lane (though frequently still shared with buses and taxis), and when they don't, it's because the street is too narrow, but that's usually only for a limited section of the street.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by evandijk70 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @06:15AM (#31998914)
You still need tracks and power lines. If the only benefit of streetcars over buses is right-of-way, why not just give buses right of way.

After some deliberation, my muncipality recently decided against a streetcar-system and for a bus-based system with electric buses, right-of-way everywhere and dedicated bus-lanes where possible (nearly everywhere).

It worked out really well.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by mcv on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @04:49AM (#31998374)
I don't know, man. These things are death traps.