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Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by breuleux on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:16AM (#31996650)
As a compatibilist, I don't know what to do with level 28 ("Oh no! A trolley problem is playing out before you. Do you actually have a choice in this situation? Or has everything been predetermined since the universe began"). Both statements can be true! Although I guess that means there is no choice :(
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by x3n0ph3n3 on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:05AM (#31996920)
Determinism doesn't mean that we don't _choose_. Free will is an incoherent idea, but choice still exists in a deterministic universe. Choice is just the outcome of that determinism.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by FranticFervor on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @09:52AM (#32000889)
I found that problem kind of silly. I chose the free will option because it seemed to imply that determinism would just let the people get run over. I don't know if it would have been the same in end, but if the free will option was the only one that saved lives it strikes me as an unfair way to discount determinism as some sort of passive "I'll just let people die" mindset, when arguably the neuron interaction in my brain would make me choose the same result in identical circumstances.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by TOGoS on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:53AM (#31996871)
If you choose to click "everything has been predetermined", you still have made a choice.

-- Rush (paraphrased)

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by agloeregrets on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:33PM (#32004155)
Have you? Or has the set of predetermined actions that have happened before you conditioned you to make the choice they have determined for you?
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by TOGoS on Wednesday July 13, 2022 @01:23PM (#32085845)
My point is that it doesn't matter. :)