however that fact that it is NOT using V8 is quite refreshing change. We need diversity in the JS eco system other than google v8. Didn't realize JavascriptCore is faster than v8.

To be fair they only said it starts faster than V8, nothing was said on runtime performance

This is the same weak argument that's being used to sell native compilation on Java. Tons of graphics showing startup time improvement, never a word on what happens after. But the only cases where this metric makes a real difference are CLI utilities and Serverless (if you know others, please tell me)

That’s not true, as far as I've read. I feel it is spelled out pretty thoroughly: Startup time and memory footprint are way lower, but peak performance is also lower: JIT outperforms static compilation due to it having more information. There are some tools to gather such information by running the program for a while, gathering stats, but JIT still outperforms.

Careful there. The JavaScript ecosystem is nothing if not diverse...

You do realize people write rust for a reason right? Not because it's new and shiny...

Well obviously. It's not going to shine when it's rusty.

I’ve found that any humor here is downvoted unless it is both very creative and very short (basically no longer than a sentence).

Or maybe that’s just my criteria. Has nothing to do with the subject, and everything to do with what HN is for.

True. I do allow myself some leeway when I get deeper in the conversation tree but it's still noise I'm adding since HN is much flatter than other forums. I really need an outlet that will fulfill my need for expression but without going full Reddit.

Or maybe I just need physical colleagues and coffee break humor.

that can't happen with Zig, since you can just drop your C/C++ headers and call it a day ;)