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Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by ithinkso on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @06:21PM (#31994474)
> I'm sure the YT PMs have proof that this improves engagement.

I sometimes wonder if the opposite is true - that the PMs can convince the upper managment that users are staying on the website longer with all those stupid as fuck shit changes, but in reality they are there longer because it's increasingly more difficult to find anything you are looking for

Sort of 'When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure'

Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by pgreenwood on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @07:47PM (#31995149)
Yes, like the way modern shopping centres seem to be designed to disorient.
Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by nine_k on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @09:30PM (#32008969)
Not to disorient, but to force you travel past most isles, increasing the chance of impulse buys.
Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by eurasiantiger on Thursday July 07, 2022 @02:48AM (#32010684)
No, they are literally designed so it is difficult to tell where you are and which ways lead to exits, because it increases the amount of impulsive purchases.

This mind trick is called the Gruen transfer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruen_transfer

Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by visarga on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:15AM (#31996647)
I thought they were just incompetent, but I think you're right.
Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by pjbeam on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @08:26PM (#31995400)
Successfully being a PM and successfully managing a product are often at odds with each other. I've seen few do it well. Not really picking on PMs either, as both an SDE and now an EM I deal with similar tensions. Gotta love corpo life.
Re:To improve search results on YouTube, use the search pref... by raghavbali on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @06:03AM (#31998836)
Could you elaborate that a bit more on this? I am on SDE side and keen on understanding the PM motivations as well