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Re:EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, ... by concinds on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @05:07PM (#31993702)
The "Chrome's only dominant because Google's advertising it on their web properties and bundling it with Java's installer!" narrative is BS.

Apple is heavily advertising Safari on sites like reddit since a few months ago. They're also abusing macOS notifications to promote Safari[0]. There's no Windows XP-style "browser choice" screen on Mac or iOS; Safari is bundled (I know macOS isn't a monopoly, but bundling is bundling). Apple has more money than Google to advertise Safari wherever they want, including Google properties that obviously sell ad space.

But ultimately Safari is losing because it's inferior. It keeps shipping with critical bugs. IndexDB constantly gets broken, partially fixed, then broken again in another update. You couldn't play DRM'd videos in Safari and use Apple Music[1] (on a completely clean install) for a long time. There was an issue in Big Sur's public release where Safari crashed if you moved a tab, and lost all your open tabs when it reopened; they took weeks to fix that. They kneecaped uBlock Origin while using the "privacy excuse", when all it meant was forcing people to switch to proprietary adblockers that still had full access to all webpage contents (see my other comment). Apple only has themselves to blame if Blink becomes the majority on iOS.

[0]: https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/153379/how-do-you-...

[1]: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252162447

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Re:EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, ... by robotnikman on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:21PM (#32003175)
You also forgot that Safari is also unavailable on non Apple devices (I think it was previously many years ago iirc) which means its market share is restricted to Apple devices. Even if Apple advertises Safari, it can only be used on those Apple devices.

Meanwhile, Chrome can be installed on just about everything.

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Re:EU approves legislation to regulate Apple, Google, Meta, ... by dwaite on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:45PM (#31996453)
> They're also abusing macOS notifications to promote Safari[0]

When you say "abusing" do you have a more recent reference than 2014?

> Apple has more money than Google to advertise Safari wherever they want

Google for a while put a Chrome banner on all their properties when you connected with a non-Chrome browser. This is something they obviously could afford since it was free for them to run that program.

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