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Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by alistairSH on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:19PM (#31990995)
A few thoughts...

Video here shows the parking pad... https://abcnews.go.com/US/video/sf-couple-fined-1500-parking...

1- City asked for photo proof to grand-father them in. They provided it and were denied. To me, that's (almost) worse than the initial ban.

2- Their entire front "yard" is concrete parking pad/walkway. I'm surprised this is allowed. But, it appears common on the street.

3- I'm amazed that parking in a driveway/parking pad is illegal. The rule should be something like "a home may have a 10' wide drive/parking pad made of concrete; this pad may be used for the storage a single (1) vehicle. The vehicle must remain licensed/registered and operable."

It's super weird that the city said they can put up an awning and then park - that seems like a bigger eye-sore than just the car.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by D13Fd on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:42PM (#31991324)
They need to comply with the law, and the law needs to be enforced. Otherwise it’s chaos. You can’t just have someone unaccountably granting exceptions to compliance. It’s next to impossible to track and ripe for corruption.

I agree the law sounds pretty stupid and it should be changed though.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by alistairSH on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:21PM (#31991839)
I mostly agree, however, 4 decades of non-enforcement, then a sudden change to enforcement is just as chaotic and just as prone to selective enforcement and corruption. The house was sold with a parking pad and that pad was in use for 4 decades - this isn't a case of a new-comer trying to subvert the rule of law. And why would the city mention an exception if said exemption is never granted?

This appears to be a poorly worded regulation that needs to be amended to something reasonable.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by bb88 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @04:34PM (#31993350)
Further there's a bunch of old laws still on the books, but rarely enforced.

These are the ones in my state of Idaho.

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jan/21/did-you-know-t...

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by Innominate on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:56PM (#31991508)
Just because it's the law doesn't mean it's right. Where the law is wrong, we have a duty to fight it.

This is some bullshit that reeks of government bureaucrats with an axe to grind.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by voisin on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:16PM (#31991766)
This kind of bullshit law or regulation doesn’t affect enough people to cause anyone to fight it, and I would venture to say that the vast majority of laws on the books fall into this category. Inch by inch we are divided and disempowered.
Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by D13Fd on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:04PM (#31991624)
Then change the law. If the law only counts when whoever is enforcing it happens to like it then we are all going to have a very bad time.
Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by voisin on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:52PM (#31991442)
There needs to be sunset provisions in laws by default that force them to be re-examined on a regular (3 year? 5 year?) basis showing the impact. The onus should be on the government to show that their laws operated as intended or they should be removed by default.
Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by D13Fd on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:08PM (#31991655)
It’s not “their” laws. It’s “our” laws if you live here and have a vote.

The government doesn’t own us. We elect representatives and leaders who make laws (or appoint appointees who make regulations) following a prescribed process.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by voisin on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:15PM (#31991745)
As much as I desperately want to agree with you, how often do you feel those who are elected share this sentiment? It certainly feels like an “us” versus “them” situation protected by boatloads of money ensuring “they” get to keep acting this way.
Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by bb88 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @04:37PM (#31993384)
Well... it's "theirs" if the laws were made 50 years ago when you didn't exist.

There's a lot of crazy laws on the books.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by dekhn on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:01PM (#31995955)
The law wasn't enforced until somebody complained. That's selective enforcement.
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Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by dang on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:43PM (#31992092)
Would you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments to HN? You've been doing it repeatedly, unfortunately. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by dekhn on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:05PM (#31995970)
The problem is that comment is totally correct. It took a school board recall to undo hugely dumb (national news) decisions that were hurtful. Sf has a history of dysfunctional goverment, take a walk around civic center or any bart station.

I see the point of trying to keep comment quality high but points like the parent are quite correct and not really starting flamewars.

Re:SF couple fined $1,500 and banned from parking their car ... by dang on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:48PM (#31996470)
The GP comment was low-information, high-inflammation—that means flamebait, regardless of how correct it is or is not. I wouldn't say it even contains enough information to count as correct or incorrect, but YMMV.

A point being correct doesn't mean it isn't flamebait. Which correct points one makes, in which order, in what context, and with what extra baggage, all matter. People (especially internet trolls) often act like "but it's correct" is some sort of blank check—this is far from the case.

Sometimes the correctness of a point makes it even worse. An example I've used in the past is middle school kids pointing out the acne on another kid's face. An example pg has used is telling an old person "you will die soon".