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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by chrsig on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:08AM (#31977844)
I was under the impression that having it all as an SoC was a significant benefit by cutting down latency between components.
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by wmf on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:24AM (#31978039)
Intel, AMD, and Qualcomm have been shipping SoCs for years.
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by seabrookmx on Monday July 04, 2022 @12:57PM (#31979207)
They don't have the RAM on package though.
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by wmf on Monday July 04, 2022 @01:09PM (#31979371)
This doesn't matter. I know no one will believe me, but there's no benchmark that can show the difference.
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by wffurr on Monday July 04, 2022 @01:43PM (#31979825)
Isn't the packaging part of what makes the very wide memory controllers feasible?
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by wmf on Monday July 04, 2022 @01:52PM (#31979915)
Not really. GPUs regularly implement 256-bit or wider RAM.
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by wffurr on Monday July 04, 2022 @03:16PM (#31980714)
Don't GPUs also typically have the RAM soldered on you the card, effectively "on package"?
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by wmf on Monday July 04, 2022 @04:51PM (#31981640)
That's my point; Apple's RAM soldered on package is the same as PC laptops with RAM soldered on the motherboard. Apple has no advantage from that.
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Re:Ask HN: Can competitors catch up to Apple Silicon? by erichocean on Monday July 04, 2022 @03:02PM (#31980621)
With insanely high latency relative to a CPU…
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