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Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by mountainriver on Monday July 04, 2022 @10:28AM (#31977413)
Yeah but k8s isn’t hard at all if you know it, it’s actually substantially easier than a couple web servers and dbserver and provides a whole lot more
Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by throwaway787544 on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:43AM (#31978304)
Rocket science isn't hard if you know it. Should we all build spaceships to deliver groceries? Good luck finding a few local rocket scientists in a pinch.

You can find plenty of auto mechanics though. Cars are cheaper and ubiquitous. Maybe they can't drive to the moon, but they can get most things done.

Unless your business is flying to the moon, stick to cars and trucks over spaceships.

Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by mountainriver on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:48AM (#31989697)
lol what? k8s isn't rocket science, for a basic web app its a single yaml file
Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by throwaway787544 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:39AM (#32009966)
In the same sense that rockets aren't complicated either, you just put on a suit, climb in, press some buttons
Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by heurist on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:08PM (#32018683)
I largely agree with the previous poster. If a single brief yaml file is too complicated, you're asking for too much from your tooling. I've seen hideous configuration management systems that did 1/100th of what kubernetes can do. There is some additional complexity around containers which is not a k8s complexity issue, and there are advanced features that most devs will never need to touch. Regardless, I'll take the complexity saved by k8s over custom built tooling or oversimplified PaaS any day.
Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by hllooo on Monday July 04, 2022 @02:24PM (#31980286)
lol yes it is
Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by mirceal on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:20AM (#31977987)
So, your argument is that you should use a tool if you know how to use it, regardless of if it's actually needed?

Personally I would take managing "a couple of webservers and a db" any day over k8s.

Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by liuliu on Monday July 04, 2022 @11:39AM (#31978231)
His point is to use whatever simplifies workflow / reduces operational overhead. To some people, that indeed would be k8s. To you, that may be "managing a couple of webservers and a db". And that is great for you.
Re:Kubernetes is a red flag signalling premature optimisation by mountainriver on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:51AM (#31989749)
yeah I use k8s for basic webapps and it works wonderfully, and is way way easier than anything else, and yes I started developing in the 90s so I've seen it all. There is a bit of overhead in learning k8s, but once you know it, it's dead simple for every use case I've found and takes you way further than anything else.