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Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by mathattack on Thursday June 30, 2022 @01:42PM (#31935886)
I will play the devils advocate here. What if it’s value is more like a store of value (gold) rather than a currency. We can’t pay all of our bills in gold, but it’s a store of value you can buy in and out of.

I don’t have a horse in the race, just trying to understand.

Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by anbende on Thursday June 30, 2022 @02:36PM (#31936631)
Right, except that gold has inherent value. Historically we thought it was pretty and made jewelry out of it. It’s important for a variety of technology products. It’s a value store because it is consistently valuable first. Bitcoin skips that step.
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by koonsolo on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:41PM (#31938998)
Gold has pretty big downsides as a store of value. It's heavy, hard to transport, ... .

The key to a cryptocurrency store can be memorized in your head. That means I can have 2mil in my head, with no other way to access it. I take it wherever I go, and can access it when there is internet. I can also send it to whoever I want, no limit.

This is literally a 1st. How high people value that, is not up to me alone. But you cannot deny that it has some value. And as long as it has some value, the above works. It basically bootstrapped itself. Claiming it has a value of 0 is very short sighted.

Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by mattwilsonn888 on Thursday June 30, 2022 @03:31PM (#31937396)
Gold pays for that step. No one sensible would prefer the gold UX compared to Bitcoin. It beats it in every way other than 'shiny!'
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by LtWorf on Friday July 01, 2022 @04:23AM (#31943782)
Gold works when the internet is down :)
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by aaaaaaaaata on Friday July 01, 2022 @09:38AM (#31946189)
So does handing over a physical wallet.

Also, nobody quits MasterCard et al because it relies on the internet...the transactions are cached, and the few problems when things come back online are dealt with as a standard "doing business" item — everywhere from insurance agencies to corner stores.

Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by LtWorf on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:20PM (#31948728)
I do carry cash for when mastercard is down. Because I tend to get in a bad mood if I can't eat due to internet issues (or any other issue).
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by mattwilsonn888 on Saturday July 02, 2022 @07:48PM (#31963602)
So does elliptic curve signing, radio, digital storage. Confirming a transaction in this state would probably be competitive with making change for, verifying, securely exchanging, securely transporting and securely storing gold.
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by aaaaaaaaata on Friday July 01, 2022 @09:37AM (#31946161)
Gold is nearly worthless as an investment vehicle for a generation or two that will never own a single property.
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by eropple on Thursday June 30, 2022 @02:36PM (#31936633)
Gold's shiny and has industrial applications. What's Bitcoin's inherent value floor?
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by mattwilsonn888 on Thursday June 30, 2022 @03:33PM (#31937427)
Doing everything the majority of the economy of gold does (industrial uses can be ignored) better, except being shiny. If 'shiny' is your real argument then reconcile Pokemon Cards without ruining your argument.
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by eropple on Thursday June 30, 2022 @03:50PM (#31937667)
"The economy of gold" doesn't do much of anything except extract wealth from a particularly extremist subset of "economic freethinkers" and my generation's parents when they watch too much Fox News, so I'm glad we're in agreement.
Re:Why I’m Cryptophobic by kreetx on Thursday June 30, 2022 @03:51PM (#31937680)
You can cheaply create more Pokemon cards while you actually need to mine the gold, no-one can't debase it at will.