Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica

Re:Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica by capableweb on Thursday June 30, 2022 @10:30AM (#31932789)

I guess what I was trying to say that Excel as commonly known, is a programming environment, rather than a language. Where you can use the "Excel" programming language for performing most (if not all) tasks a general purpose programming language can.

But it's still a bit like saying "Eclipse" is a programming language. You can do programming in Eclipse, that is true, but you can also do other things that are not programming, which makes Eclipse a programming environment. Just like with Excel.

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Re:Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica by zaphar on Thursday June 30, 2022 @10:34AM (#31932839)

I don't think this is a true dividing line for a programming language. The Smalltalk language for instance combines both the programming environment and the language together. I don't think anyone seriously argues that smalltalk is not a programming language.

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Re:Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica by igouy on Thursday June 30, 2022 @02:36PM (#31936638)

Seems like equivocation — Smalltalk is a programming language when we're using "Smalltalk" to mean Smalltalk the programming language and Smalltalk is a programming environment when we're using "Smalltalk" to mean Smalltalk the programming environment.

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Re:Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica by zaphar on Thursday June 30, 2022 @03:28PM (#31937348)

Either way it is still entirely valid to refer to Smalltalk as a programing language.

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Re:Launching Version 13.1 of Wolfram Language and Mathematica by igouy on Thursday June 30, 2022 @05:18PM (#31938745)

As-long-as you actually mean a "narrow definition of programming language" otherwise you're saying one thing while meaning another.

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