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Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by nemo44x on Thursday June 30, 2022 @07:40AM (#31931154)
The character Russ Hanneman on the TV show “Silicon Valley” took it a step further stating that having no revenue to speak of makes a company more valuable. It’s satire…but is it?
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by JohnJamesRambo on Thursday June 30, 2022 @09:14AM (#31931942)
It matters what portion of the cycle we are in. We used to be in the voting portion, now we are in the weighing machine portion and things are very different.

“In other words, the market is not a weighing machine, on which the value of each issue is recorded by an exact and impersonal mechanism, in accordance with its specific qualities. Rather should we say that the market is a voting machine, whereon countless individuals register choices which are the product partly of reason and partly of emotion.” -Security Analysis 1934

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by robbiep on Thursday June 30, 2022 @09:00AM (#31931817)
A company with no revenue can potentially raise at a higher valuation with a company of $1 of revenue - because now it’s real and investors will start making their mind up about the actual possiblities of the investment
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by foobiekr on Thursday June 30, 2022 @12:42PM (#31935128)
Directly experienced this - having actual _profit_ makes it hard to encourage fantastical storytelling about how big the upside is. It's the company future equivalent of mark-to-market.

Revenue .. well, if you can get huge revenue with huge losses and convincingly demonstrate (mostly by spending) that more losses (= more capital) means more revenue can actually take you a long way. Almost all of the "unicorns" and "decacorns" embraced this model - lose $2-5 per $ of revenue but able to demonstrate almost unlimited market. Most of those companies can never, ever be profitable entities.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by ihaveajob on Thursday June 30, 2022 @09:01AM (#31931826)
I've heard this time and time again in SV circles. It probably is for the right founder who is able to paint a rosy picture and a nice story. I'm not that kind of person, so it's bonkers to me.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by papito on Thursday June 30, 2022 @09:37AM (#31932178)
Like Adam Nuemann. You have to be tall and loud. Doesn't matter if you are making sense or not. Sometimes VCs act like gullible women on a date who are enamored by a douchebag, I swear.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by HNDen21 on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:54AM (#31931770)
This was the Masayoshi Son/Adam Neumann playbook for WeWork... growth above all
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by arcturus17 on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:47AM (#31931704)
In a way it isn’t because no revenue at all can excite the imagination infinitely more than underwhelming revenue.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by maccard on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:54AM (#31931762)
> It’s satire…but is it?

Depends on your definition of value. If a companies max revenue is $X, the farther away from $X they are the more of a return you can hope to get!