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Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by zac23or on Thursday June 30, 2022 @06:58AM (#31930859)
I never write anything in any web interface. I write in notepad and copy and paste. I had many bad surprises ... I can't trust web interfaces. And I use the Windows clipboard manager too.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by wartijn_ on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:51AM (#31931737)
I also prefer to write my stuff offline and than paste it to a web interface. That works great, until you write markdown and paste in into Confluence. Instead of just accepting markdown and formatting it in the same way it does when you type markdown, Confluence puts it between code tags..

Jira does this better, but is still weird with their text formatting. There are two different kinds of input fields, one of them accepts markdown, the other one some other kind of markup language. Copying some formatted text from one of the inputs to the other doesn't work because of this.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by caspar on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:39PM (#31940655)
> That works great, until you write markdown and paste in into Confluence. Instead of just accepting markdown and formatting it in the same way it does when you type markdown, Confluence puts it between code tags..

If you are in the new editor for Confluence Cloud (i.e. the editor based on ProseMirror rather than TinyMCE), you can sometimes get it to do "the right thing" of converting pasted markdown to formatted text by copying from a different text editor. For example, for me copying from windows notepad always does the right thing, but copying from vscode doesn't.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by exyi on Thursday June 30, 2022 @08:11AM (#31931390)
It had never happened to me except for Confluence and Microsoft Teams. Firefox even preserves the typed text between reloads of the page - so unless the web app hacks the textarea somehow, the text will stay there.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by throwamon on Thursday June 30, 2022 @10:01AM (#31932451)
You mean literally Windows' Notepad? Because that's about the worst app to write on. Not even going to go into how it's almost devoid of useful commands.

Make one mistake, you're good. Make two, tough luck, you can only undo once. Accidentally select some (or all) text and type over it then somewhere else? Today's really not your day. It's actually worse than textboxes in this respect.

This happened to me more times than I'd like to admit before I knew better.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by logicchains on Thursday June 30, 2022 @11:42AM (#31934098)
>You mean literally Windows' Notepad? Because that's about the worst app to write on.

It's actually one of the best on Windows, because if you leave your computer for a moment and it randomly decides to restart to install a Windows Update, often a notepad with unsaved changes will block it from restarting, whilst unsaved work elsewhere won't.

Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by wizofaus on Thursday June 30, 2022 @02:40PM (#31936703)
Vs Notepad++ that simply autosaves in that case? Only problem there is when you realise you have 50 tabs of scratch data you were expecting to have been discarded by now but are all still loaded up next time it starts up...
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by theonemind on Friday July 01, 2022 @06:00AM (#31944354)
I think he considers notepad.exe one of the best applications expressly because it stops Windows from restarting when he doesn't want Windows restarted, which, ironically, it presumably wouldn't do it if had Notepad++'s better-designed and usually preferable behavior. (The Notepad+Windows case seems like botches (individually user-hostile forced reboots and poor handling of state on restart for Windows and Notepad respectively) partially cancelling each other out.)
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by LtdJorge on Friday July 01, 2022 @06:04AM (#31944381)
That's sad and true. Happened to me many times.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by zac23or on Thursday June 30, 2022 @10:15AM (#31932588)
Notepad++. Or Vim. Or any editor.
Re:Atlassian is 20 years old and unprofitable by time0ut on Thursday June 30, 2022 @12:40PM (#31935094)
This is how I work as well, but Sublime is my preferred editor. Same on both Windows and MacOS. Autosaves everything. Super fast.