Why programmers are not paid in proportion to their productivity (2009)

Re:Why programmers are not paid in proportion to their produ... by jotm on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @03:24PM (#31924616)

I mean, I've seen the same exact thing in the UK and Germany. People just don't give a fuck about their job, they come to do the minimum amount of work and fuck off. More Brits stayed for overtime, Germans preferred to leave on time. But they solved it by hiring immigrants who will work like horses.

And for low/unskilled workers, in the UK they're with an agency so they can be sacked anytime, while in Germany they're hired on a 6 month contract, then swapped with others for 6 months, then the previous guys return after 6 months, it's rather insane. So much for social protection or whatever.

Mercedes parts QA people and warehouse workers are on 6 days/10-12 hours for 3-6 months. Literally looking at an advert right now. Wage doesn't even matter (it's minimum), that kind of schedule is bad for quality. Also, great European work/life balance lol

What I'm trying to say, it's more of a company problem.

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Re:Why programmers are not paid in proportion to their produ... by Mo3 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @03:34PM (#31924730)

No, that’s really just picking out the bad apples in the face of undeniable statistics. I could do the same for the US now but then we’d end up with almost the whole apple tree

I’m also not saying that we don’t have problems in Europe either, but they are not structural and by default

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