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Re:TSMC to customers: It's time to stop using older nodes an... by awestroke on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:02PM (#31922051)
How can they not afford a 300 dollar tablet in a 40k dollar car?
Re:TSMC to customers: It's time to stop using older nodes an... by digikata on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:53PM (#31922734)
A $300 tablet drops support in 90days to a year. A $300 tablet equivalent in a car has a trailing maintenance requirement for service and parts for years (5-10?)
Re:TSMC to customers: It's time to stop using older nodes an... by PeterisP on Friday July 01, 2022 @11:32AM (#31947841)
A 300 dollar tablet dies quickly in the automotive environment with outdoors-like variation in temperature and humidity. Tablet manufacturers literally write in their product sheets "do not leave the device in a car or it may get damaged"; if you leave an iPad in direct sun for a month and it dies, it's expensive for you, if the same happens to a car console, that's expensive for the manufacturer which has to repair it under warranty.

The temperature range for iPad listed by Apple is 0 to +35 C for operation and -20 to +45 C for storage. The required temperature range for electronics on automotive dashboards (which may be exposed to direct sun) is -40 to 90 C, which effectively requires different materials, which means you can't even reuse most components.

Re:TSMC to customers: It's time to stop using older nodes an... by replygirl on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:20PM (#31922269)
assuming you're selling 5 million of a part where the previous generation is 5-10 years old, $1.5 billion is not a lot of money for development, validation, materials, manufacturing, logistics, dealer training, integration with future models, and a decade of OTA updates
Re:TSMC to customers: It's time to stop using older nodes an... by MichaelZuo on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @08:12PM (#31927308)
Because it becomes a $3000 tablet, in today's chip-shortage environment, to meet certification for automotive use.