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Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by adastra22 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @07:29PM (#31914453)
My favorite tidbit about the Buran is that it executes a complicated roll maneuver immediately after lift off. You can see the Shuttle do the exact same thing when it launches from Cape Canaveral. The reason is that the lunch pad at the Cape is orientated particular way because it was an upgraded launch pad from the Saturn V, and they couldn’t just rebuild from scratch to meet Shuttle specs. So it rolls after clearing the launch tower to achieve the correct orientation.

The Buran launch pad, by contrast, is able to rotate 360 degrees. They could have just rotated the pad to be correctly aligned before launch. But no, they execute the same complicated, mission-risk-adding roll maneuver verbatim. Exactly like shuttle.

I guarantee you the Buran was running stolen launch sequence code from the Shuttle.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by orbital-decay on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @02:33AM (#31917131)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMV-3ldMvpA

Here's the Energiya launch site (a sequence of 360° photos, you can look around). What part of it could rotate, in your opinion? Keep in mind the tower is also missing the massive supports and the cosmonaut escape route, a humongous tube slide that couldn't move anywhere.

You might be thinking of the first R-7 launchpads that had to be rotated to a fixed angle before the launch because the control system from 1950's was unable to compute the roll maneuver in flight, aerodynamics being too complex for it.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by turbinerneiter on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @07:41AM (#31918803)
Where are you taking this info from?

Wikipedia makes no mention of that reasoning: https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Roll_program

The roll is part of the gravity turn, every craft does that kind of stuff to 'aim'.

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by eagerpace on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @08:55AM (#31919477)
So much wrong here. Seems to be a trend on hn this morning.

Food for thought, even if they did steal code, what would that have looked like in the 70s and 80s? Printing out reams of paper? Wheeling in a giant hard disk?

Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by MerelyMortal on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @09:20AM (#31919703)
Taking pictures with microfilm.
Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by markpeppers on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @09:02AM (#31919528)
Re:US military's mysterious X-37B space plane zooms toward o... by adastra22 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:37PM (#31922505)
Thanks for all the corrections everyone! I trusted the source of this story, but it looks like I should have investigated myself a bit more before repeating. Glad to be corrected!