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Re:Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Atto... by failTide on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @04:46PM (#31912799)
A gift would still follow the state's laws on firearms transfers and eligibility, which can involve various forms and middlemen. With a straw purchase you're just handing the gun to someone else.

It's more of a gray area when it's an intrafamilial transfer.

Re:Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Atto... by throwaway5752 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:52PM (#31914134)
It isn't. Unless someone was operating a crazy and expensive free guns charity, you are not "handing the gun to someone else". You are _reselling_ the gun to someone else who could not legally purchase or is avoiding a paper trail in order to commit a crime.
Re:Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Atto... by bmelton on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @10:28PM (#31915774)
Sometimes that's even a crime without the inability to legally purchase or avoid a paper trail - just lying about the recipient and engaging in a private sale can be criminal even if both parties are eligible for the firearm purchase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramski_v._United_States

Re:Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Atto... by failTide on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @10:20PM (#31915724)
I didn't mean to imply that there wouldn't be a payment - although it's not always the case.
Re:Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Atto... by R0b0t1 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:12PM (#31913754)
It's a thoughtcrime and a terrible law because of it. There's a ton of these w.r.t. gun laws in the US. Say the wrong thing and you get ten, say something slightly different and you get zero.
Re:Gun owners’ private information leaked by California Atto... by maxerickson on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:35PM (#31913975)
We examine intent for homicide too.