I feel like that’s where you separate the pre-cloud and post-cloud devs.

It’s not hard to imagine a dev being brought up 5 years ago into a React world, with JS in the backend and something like Vercel or Netlify to deploy their app.

Someone like that might be entirely uncomfortable when dumped into a plain old Linux server, and would definitely take longer than 40 minutes to even get their head wrapped around what’s going on.

That’s not a knock on them - they get their job done, and to the business that’s all that matters. But yeah, just trying to, I don’t even know, empathise? Try to understand? Who knows. It’s just a different world now.

Symapthy, is more like it. Theyve been convinced by the cloud rental services that it's different now and too hard, when it's really not because all that SaaS is still running on a webserver. There's just a new gate keeper with a huge marketing budget that charges by the minute now.

> and would definitely take longer than 40 minutes to even get their head wrapped around what’s going on.

If a grown up person (who is presumably making a good money in their React/JS thing) can't figure on how to install a web server in 40 minutes (with all SO, Google and a bazillion of articles on how to do so) then...

Like come on, twenty years ago you still needed to get your ass off the chair and go to the bookstore, find and buy a proper book and actually read it. Now you just need to type "Ubuntu 20 install webserver" in to the search and voila.