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Re:Ask HN: Devs who passed whiteboarding at FAANG: how do yo... by nightski on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:57AM (#31906202)
Your comment focuses on false negatives as if that is the only downfall, but I can't help to imagine false positives happen quite a bit.
Re:Ask HN: Devs who passed whiteboarding at FAANG: how do yo... by wffurr on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @07:32AM (#31906400)
The stereotypical false positive is a competition programmer who aces whiteboard puzzles and leetcode type problems but isn't actually a good software engineer. They fall down at all the other parts that aren't clever programming.

Thankfully those are usually junior hires and can often be mentored into a good or excellent engineer.

Re:Ask HN: Devs who passed whiteboarding at FAANG: how do yo... by mountainriver on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @09:39AM (#31907528)
There are also lots of people who are just bad engineers but memorize Leetcode problems. Most of Leetcode is memorization, and most of the people I see get hired at Leetcode establishments aren’t good engineers.

It’s just a bad test, why are people so hung up in it? Cause Google does it?

Re:Ask HN: Devs who passed whiteboarding at FAANG: how do yo... by Icathian on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @10:03AM (#31907797)
People are hung up on it because it's the gate to making ridiculous amounts of money doing what we all enjoy.

Also, because there isn't really a "good" option for interviewing (especially at scale), the door is always left open for endless circular debates on the topic.

Re:Ask HN: Devs who passed whiteboarding at FAANG: how do yo... by romanhn on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @12:40PM (#31909978)
False positives surely exist, but in my experience the challenges are rigorous enough and preparation requires enough patience, that there's a certain competency floor here that makes this less of a problem for the company. Every single engineer I met there ranged from competent to "10x", contrary to a neighboring comment.

I do think there's something of an obsession to minimise false positives at the expense of false negatives. The companies are succeeding at this, which I find foolhardy as they lose the opportunity to hire even more of the high performers who can't or won't jump through the hoops.

Re:Ask HN: Devs who passed whiteboarding at FAANG: how do yo... by nightski on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @02:29PM (#31923955)
To be fair FAANG are probably large enough now that they can get by with a mix of average engineers at this point as well. They really don't need the best of the best. It's all at scale now and there isn't time for individual attention.