Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR

Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR by filoeleven on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:36AM (#31904798)

> Angular in 2022 is simpler than react

Surely you must be joking. You have to learn all of these things to make the tiniest CRUDdy app:

  - angular modules
  - angular template syntax
  - angular decorators
  - angular dependency injection
  - rxjs

I mean, look at the FULL table of contents for their “Get data from a server” doc! [0]

I can’t speak about next.js, it doesn’t fit my use case. But claiming that “Angular is simpler than React” is ludicrous.

https://angular.io/tutorial/toh-pt6

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Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR by findingFounders on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @03:47AM (#31905226)

looks like Standalone Components, which are in preview in the latest v14, may yet see the deprecation of angular modules, or at least give more options to devs https://angular.io/guide/standalone-components

With decorators and dependency injection at least you're learning a concept which has been quite widely used across some popular languages/frameworks, there's a chance you'd already have come across these ideas in learning programming.

rxjs definitely can take some learning time, though to get started with basic things like handle an api request with observable it doesn't take long. There's a whole lot you can do, and that power is quite useful for complex scenarios.

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Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR by antonvs on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @06:17AM (#31906010)

For me Angular's use of rxjs is a killer feature. Our back end code relies heavily on streaming computations, and rxjs provides a great front end complement to that.

Powerful tools often put people off because they appear complex. Often that complexity is at least partly an illusion - once you've learned the abstractions, much of what seemed to be complexity can actually be very simple.

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Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR by findingFounders on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @08:22AM (#31906750)

yep i really like using rxjs now. i find using "await lastValueFrom(<observable>)" keeps code nicely readable and flat. it has 38m weekly downloads on npm so should be around for a good while.

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Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR by filoeleven on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @10:07PM (#31915648)

I don’t want to use decorators. They’re another band-aid to keep OOP on life support. They are disguised functions applied to mutable objects in order to enhance their capabilities (or maybe to comply with type interfaces).

Dependency injection is the exact same thing, only with different syntax.

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Re:Angular without SSR is faster than Next.js with SSR by blakblakarak on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @03:00AM (#31904950)

It's simpler once you know it. I bounce between Angular and React and whilst it's true that React is easier to get started, changes in the API (hooks, class vs functional componentns) and ecosystem (eg forms, UI Kits, state management, architecture etc) mean that I find it's a constant learning curve, whereas aside from a few minor changes Angular has been the same since V2.

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