But 58% of Americans didn't want Roe v. Wade overturned, while only 35% did, which widens the decision's unpopularity even more (again, according to a Gallup poll):

https://news.gallup.com/poll/393275/steady-americans-not-roe...

Like with any culture war issue anywhere, it reaches the point where, whether actively or due to escalation, rational discussion does not survive in an environment where the stakes become personalized. It's wishful to lament how people aren't talking about this rationally but because of escalation the only way to get your message out effectively is to, unfortunately, distill it as hard as you can. I don't think anyone knows how to effectively defuse this situation, so it's just a horrible catch-22.

The UK is, of course, not immune to this on its own culture war issues.

I find the wording of "pro life" and "pro choice" in polls problematic and doesn't necessarily correlate with view points on roe vs wade. In particular "pro life" doesn't directly address if abortion should be legal.

I know several people that are "pro life" in the sense that they would not get an abortion themselves. They call themselves "pro life". But they also don't try to restrict the choices of others and don't think abortions should be illegal.

Also you could agree with the supreme court overturning Roe vs Wade but also firmly believe that women should have the right to have an abortion.

(i.e. You could support women getting abortions, but also believe that this should be determined democratically at the level of the state)

This is why things are much more nuanced than simple soundbites can manage to handle!

Yea agree. It's at least a 2x2x2 matrix:

- Do you agree with having abortions?

- Do you think abortions should be regulated at the federal level?

- Do you think abortions should be legal?

probably many other dimensions.

Yes, and to add a 2x2x2x2 addition:

- Do you think abortions should be determined by legislature rather than the judiciary?

(i.e. Roe vs Wade was tenuous from a legal perspective, and IMO a supreme court shouldn't be able to make it's own laws up which I think this veered into, even though I 100% agree with a woman's right to abortions!).

They're carrying water for the oppressor. Maybe they're "arguing against abortions," or maybe they're just being a "useful idiot."

40% is a minority, and those are people who consider themselves "pro-life" which isn't exactly the same as the number that think abortions are bad, but should remain legal. I'm to lazy to look that up (and the numbers are nuanced) but its was a lot closer to 25% thought it should be illegal.

AKA there are plenty of "conservatives" who are horrified by the decision.

It's also possible to be pro-choice and agree with Roe vs Wade being overturned.

The whole point from OP though is just that nuanced debate isn't possible in a world where soundbites rule.

How many of that 40% know pro life means the abolition of abortion?