Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security

Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by idle_zealot on Monday June 27, 2022 @11:26AM (#31895913)

IE wasn’t stopped with legislation. It continued to be bundled with Windows. It was eventually dethroned by Chrome.

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by batty_alex on Monday June 27, 2022 @11:53AM (#31896312)

> IE wasn’t stopped with legislation

Yes it was. You're ignoring all the other things proprietary about IE and only considering the OS bundle one. JScript, VBScript, and ActiveX were the real problem. There we so many proprietary extensions to IE that were not even remotely supported elsewhere. Hell, C# even came out of the hell that was Microsoft's JVM, J++, and J# thanks to those trials

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by AlexandrB on Monday June 27, 2022 @11:49AM (#31896248)

One could argue the successful legal action against IE bundling stopped Microsoft from further entrenching it in Windows. With Edge in Windows 10/11 you can see the kind of nudges that Microsoft probably wanted to add all along.

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by izacus on Monday June 27, 2022 @03:31PM (#31899609)

And now this topic is full of people defending this exact entrenchment by dictat from Apple.

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by veilrap on Monday June 27, 2022 @06:06PM (#31901476)

It's not the same, because Safari is already a minority in the market compared to the Chrome behemoth.

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by simondotau on Monday June 27, 2022 @07:28PM (#31902273)

Seriously, I kind of wonder whether or not grass roots anti-Safari sentiment is dominated by web developers who resent having to test their sites in more than one web browser.

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by idle_zealot on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:49AM (#31904874)

I don't like Safari because I can't get uBO or Tree Tabs for it, and because it's often the odd-one-out between the Chrome/Firefox/Safari triopoly in terms of feature support. The battery efficiency is nice though.

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Re:Apple's claim is that it bans other browsers for security by simondotau on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @04:58AM (#31905627)

Fair, though I would suggest that Safari's feature support really is excellent (especially in recent months) and I would further say that I don't think the web needs to — or should — advance at the pace being set by Google. I actually like the fact that Safari is a bit slower. I think it's healthy for the web.

On desktop I personally use Firefox because I find it to be a good blend of performance and resource efficiency, plus it has excellent support of content blocking add-ons.

[To clarify, I had intended to refer to Safari on iOS specifically, vis a vis complaints about the lack of engine choice on iOS. But I recognise that my post didn't say what I had intended.]

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