DevOps is a failure

Re:DevOps is a failure by haspok on Monday June 27, 2022 @02:58AM (#31891418)

At all the places I worked previously in the last ~20 years there was always a sharp separation of development/testing and production environments. I as a developer never had access to any system in production, apart from one place which had a very sophisticated security system in place which could grant you temporary access during deployments. Just think about customer data, and you'll understand why.

So when I hear that someone thinks devops is developers running their own systems in production I always wonder where this is actually possible, let alone whether it is a good idea at all.

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Re:DevOps is a failure by Aeolun on Monday June 27, 2022 @03:19AM (#31891536)

I have the opposite experience.

Given that I've been perfectly capable of doing ops work in the previous 5 companies I've worked at, suddenly being unable to do so in my current company because I'm classified as a 'dev', is supremely frustrating.

Especially when you have more experience by yourself than the entire ops team combined.

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Re:DevOps is a failure by VectorLock on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @11:40PM (#31916219)

You're just replacing one set of people with access to customer data with another.

In either case you should be implementing least-privileges. Only the access to data that a person needs to get their job done. More frequently this is developers than operations people.

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