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Re:DevOps is a failure by bryanrasmussen on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:53PM (#31888418)
>to the people claiming that today's infra does more things... No, I'm comparing stuff with the same levels of availability, same deployment times, same security updates.

ok but in my experience it seems like more things are being done in places I see with devops nowadays versus back then. I mean I know you say that it's the same, but it's hard to believe your statement in a comment versus my lying eyes. It seems more likely to me that your two examples are both actually fictitious and thus it is easy for you to say that they are exactly the same in what gets output - or have you been at the same place for 17 years, seen the changes, yet have had no input on the company to stop the madness? Because if the latter that would also seem... weird.

Re:DevOps is a failure by thr0wawayf00 on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:57PM (#31888463)
Were microservices a thing back in 2005? Honest question, I always assumed that SOA was more of a newer philosophy in web software. The scale of what we build has changed a lot over the years, as well as the need to handle the variance of scale through techniques like auto-scaling. All of that adds an incredible amount of complexity in systems that surely didn't exist 18 years ago.
Re:DevOps is a failure by bryanrasmussen on Sunday June 26, 2022 @06:26PM (#31888724)
I don't think SOA was in common discussion in 2005, I think more about 2007 would sound right, Rest was pretty much the winner by 2009. But perhaps my memories here are warped by my personal career and not having to have the arguments after 2009.

No I don't think microservices was anywhere at that time, although one could argue that they are a repackaging of the ideas of Small Pieces, Loosely Joined https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_Pieces_Loosely_Joined or an architectural expression of loose coupling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loose_coupling for corporate data.