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Re:DevOps is a failure by sto_hristo on Sunday June 26, 2022 @04:49PM (#31887812)
I simply quit a job with 2 months after they pinned devops duties in addition to software development. And i've yet to be proven that this can be done by a single person.
Re:DevOps is a failure by nixlim on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:18PM (#31888074)
I work in a team of 45 devs. We develop, deploy and maintain our code. Maintenance is done on rotation, everyone is responsible for deployment of their code all the way to prod and we maintain the CI/CD pipelines ourselves. K8s is the only managed service we use on aws. On Azure, we manage our own K8s. It's not "a single person" but as a team, we all do it.
Re:DevOps is a failure by hedora on Monday June 27, 2022 @10:31AM (#31895079)
So, all 45 of you are modifying yaml templates and dockerfiles?

That sounds like a spectacular duplication of effort to me.

Re:DevOps is a failure by ed_elliott_asc on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:21PM (#31888113)
The problem with anything like this where one person has multiple “roles” is that it is hard to excel at one or the other and very very easy to not be good at both.

Unless you are given time to spend on both roles independently then you end up cutting corners, it is inevitable as one or the other will be more important at one time and you can’t be in two places at once!

Re:DevOps is a failure by trog on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:38PM (#31888284)
> The problem with anything like this where one person has multiple “roles” is that it is hard to excel at one or the other and very very easy to not be good at both.

In the immortal words of Ron Swanson - never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing.

Re:DevOps is a failure by CommanderData on Sunday June 26, 2022 @06:13PM (#31888611)
Ive worked in places that have done just that. Essentially developed who are operations but focused on dev. They hated being on call, anxiety went through the roof, burn out and eventually would leave the company, it was rolled out to a subset team and not all.

These were seasoned devs the company had lost and now the codebase is dysfunctional and has put the project/roadmap at risk and company revenue.

The thought of having to do Ops, write code and be on call gives me anxiety and panic attacks.

Re:DevOps is a failure by nrmitchi on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:02PM (#31887920)
I'm curious, in your example, what do you consider "devops duties"?
Re:DevOps is a failure by mountainriver on Sunday June 26, 2022 @05:03PM (#31887930)
It can but it’s not very practical