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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by mindcrime on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:55PM (#31869184)
Libertarians should be in the streets protesting the loss of bodily autonomy. And all of us should be afraid.

I agree, but I also tend to think this battle was lost when the SCOTUS refused to reject the "individual mandate". When you've reduced the notion of individual agency to the level that the State can dictate what items you must purchase, this is an entirely logical consequence.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by peter422 on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:03PM (#31869274)
Fortunately there is nothing else the state forces you to purchase so this is a very clean ideological point you are making.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by jkepler on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:51PM (#31869889)
Libertarians should be protesting against violence toward the unborn child... libertarianism's core principle is nonviolence towards others.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by mindcrime on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:34PM (#31870356)
I've always held that one can make a principled, well-reasoned Libertarian argument both for OR against abortion, based on the grounds you just cited. But I've also personally always held that there is no objective, universal standard for deciding exactly when to consider that unborn entity a "child" which has rights and against which it makes sense to speak of violence being conducted. That being the case, I don't find any value in adding the specter of State violence to the mix. I'd rather leave this whole situation to the mother, her family, medical professionals and others supporters.

This is why I'm a Libertarian who largely opposes abortion on a purely personal level, but is 100% pro-choice on a political level. But at the same time, I can respect those who hold the other position based on the NAP. I'd just argue that with no objective way to resolve the dispute, it's best to not bring the State into it.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by usrn on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:58PM (#31869218)
If you take libertarinism to it's extreme like that then they should be protesting the lack of freedom of association as well but none are doing that either.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by boppo1 on Friday June 24, 2022 @08:04PM (#31871058)
But freedom of association is legal.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by usrn on Friday June 24, 2022 @10:40PM (#31871997)
No. You're legally not allowed to discriminate among customers, employees, neighbors, or renters.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by boppo1 on Saturday June 25, 2022 @02:37PM (#31877596)
Would that not be freedom of disassociation?
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by usrn on Saturday June 25, 2022 @04:26PM (#31878449)
Regardless of what you call it, these are the kinds of ideas you get when you reject the social parts of government and go full libertarian.