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Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by entropicdrifter on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:31PM (#31867262)
>The reality is that there is likely a broad consensus in the US for legalising abortion up to 12 weeks, the way it is in most of europe

Yeah, that's true, but there's also been a broad consensus in the US for federally legalizing (or even just decriminalizing) cannabis for well over a decade, and we haven't even managed to get that done due to the minority party overwhelmingly blocking even the most popular legislation if it goes even remotely against their moneyed interests.

Just because there's broad support doesn't mean that it will happen. At this point the Rs are going to have to be thoroughly crushed in congressional elections for a while, like what happened in the 30s through 60s, if any popular legislation is going to be passed.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by hellojesus on Friday June 24, 2022 @05:31PM (#31869597)
Technically Schedule 1 drugs should be given the same treatment as R v. W just got.

There is no federally enumerated power to ban substances. That should be a state issue according the the 10th ammendment.

Both abortion and schedule I drug prohibition/anti-prohibition require Constitutional ammendments legally.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by monocasa on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:24PM (#31870262)
The ruling isn't actually rooted in state versus federal powers, and in fact opens the door for a federal ban on abortion.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by hellojesus on Friday June 24, 2022 @06:59PM (#31870591)
What is the ruling rooted in? This is what I see:

""" hold thatRoe andCasey must be overruled. The Con-stitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such rightis implicitly protected by any constitutional provision, in-cluding the one on which the defenders ofRoe andCaseynow chiefly rely—the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. ... is time to heed the Constitution and return the issue ofabortion to the people’s elected representatives. “The per-missibility of abortion, and the limitations, upon it, are tobe resolved like most important questions in our democ-racy: by citizens trying to persuade one another and thenvoting. """ https://www.scribd.com/document/579588941/19-1392-6j37

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by monocasa on Friday June 24, 2022 @08:17PM (#31871149)
That spells it out pretty well.

That it's rooted in the court's idea that there is no inherent constitutional protection against abortion bans, and therefore lower tiers of law (including federal US code) instituting arbitrary bans. Currently it looks like a states' rights issue because the bans are only in state code at the moment. The door is left open for federal code to fully ban abortion however, and Republican leaders have been messaging that this is their next step. https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/05/mitch-mcconnell-ackn...

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by skissane on Friday June 24, 2022 @09:22PM (#31871571)
> That it's rooted in the court's idea that there is no inherent constitutional protection against abortion bans,

I don’t think they went so far as to definitely say there is no federal right to an abortion under any circumstances. I think they’ve left open the possibility that the due process right to life entails a right to an abortion when necessary to save the life of the mother (and possibly even when necessary to prevent severe long-term harm to her health-such as if continuing with the pregnancy was highly likely to cause her to go blind, for example). I could certainly see a future ruling (even by the current SCOTUS majority) upholding a federal right to an abortion in those very restrictive circumstances. All it might (sadly) take, is for America to have its own Savita Halappanavar

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Savita_Halappanavar

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by hellojesus on Monday June 27, 2022 @04:32PM (#31900392)
Agreed. Substantive due process was left intact.

Additionally, regarding left or right federal legislation: this would very likely be struck down by the same court under the reasoning that the constitution does not grant the federal government the power to regulate abortion.

Any federal legislation would have to come in the form of an ammendment.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by skissane on Friday July 01, 2022 @10:49PM (#31955666)
> Additionally, regarding left or right federal legislation: this would very likely be struck down by the same court under the reasoning that the constitution does not grant the federal government the power to regulate abortion.

I think, if Congress enacted a narrow federal right to an abortion – such as the right to an abortion to save the life of the mother – the current SCOTUS majority would be likely to uphold it - the right to life (including that of the mother) is arguably "deeply rooted in the nation's history" – and "life" is even explicitly mentioned in the text – and so such Congressional legislation would arguably be a legitimate exercise of the Section 5 power to enforce Section 1. Plausibly, they might even uphold a statutory federal right to an abortion to save the mother's health, since the right to health has an obvious connection to the right to life.

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by vageli on Friday June 24, 2022 @09:22PM (#31871570)
Seems like drugs might "reasonably" fall under the commerce clause [0] and thus federal regulation, though it is contemptible how much it is abused.

[0]: https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/commerce_clause

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by hellojesus on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:49AM (#31904875)
They do, but that only regulates interstate commerce. Intrastate commerce is unimpacted.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by mattnewton on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:36PM (#31867343)
We’re going to need a new-deal level mandate unfortunately and my understanding is that will has only been built off catastrophic events as large as two world wars and the Great Depression.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by entropicdrifter on Friday June 24, 2022 @02:39PM (#31867385)
And keep in mind that was before Fox News/other right wing propaganda networks highjacked a third of the nation's critical thinking abilities with scare tactics and conspiracy nonsense.
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by soco on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:25PM (#31868117)
Basically they built already exactly those extraordinary events in the minds of their followers...
Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by ceeplusplus on Friday June 24, 2022 @03:59PM (#31868505)
As long as D's continue to push unpopular initiatives like "racial equity" (reverse discrimination), banning gas cars, and increasing taxes to pay for social programs, they're never going to get a mandate. The reality is, whether you like it or not, even California rejected ultra left-wing "racial equity" initiatives at the ballot (Prop 16), people like their big gas cars that pollute the environment (or they can't afford a $50k EV/$30k hybrid and think D's are out of touch), and there is a widespread notion that the government is notoriously inefficient and incompetent. Agencies like the DMV and SSA don't exactly work to dispel that notion either.

Where's the common sense stuff? Where's the stuff most people would vote for?

Re:Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade by beckingz on Friday June 24, 2022 @04:37PM (#31868990)
I had a great time the last time I went to the DMV, but I agree that is usually not the case.