Please don't post in the flamewar style to HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

We want curious conversation here. If you would please review the guidelines (https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html) and make your substantive points thoughtfully, we'd be grateful.

Arguing against states rights is the argument for slavery that lead to the civil war? I am confused.