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Re:New Tolkien book, The Fall of Númenor, to be published by baud147258 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @08:52AM (#31848346)
yes, I'm finding this trope a little tired because it's like everywhere. It could be interesting to have a setting in the first age, like there's no ruins from previous civilization, you are building what would become those ruins instead.

And it's also not limited to fantasy, as it's also there in sci-fi

Re:New Tolkien book, The Fall of Númenor, to be published by yieldcrv on Thursday June 23, 2022 @09:11AM (#31848573)
Definitely a tired trope, but I like the Witcher’s variant on that. Mostly different dimensions that are collidable and occasionally traversed. Still has a segregated fairly advanced Elven kingdom seemingly predating man.

But the observations that vanquishing threats to society dont necessarily raise the standards of living is some pretty well in the Witcher franchise. Very nihilist.