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Re:Guide to Web Authentication by t0astbread on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @02:17PM (#31839782)
I'm not an expert in authentication but afaik TOTP (and HOTP) work completely offline. That means you could store your keys on a device that doesn't have internet access. On that device you can do whatever you want. Some TOTP apps allow you to lock your keys with an additional passphrase or a biometric factor.

From my (maybe naive) POV as a user I tend to agree, it would be nice to have a standard for push-based authentication so that I can actually see when someone else has made it past the password prompt. Although email notifications would largely solve that problem (if more websites used them).

Re:Guide to Web Authentication by overeater on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @02:21PM (#31839837)
I"m not seeing a huge benefit of the personal device being offline, while you're trying to log into an online service. But let's say there was a need for that, what about using bluetooth or wifi direct to push to the device?
Re:Guide to Web Authentication by t0astbread on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @03:21PM (#31840613)
Like I said, I don't know the standards, so I don't know the authors' intentions. But there are actually specialized devices which do nothing but generate TOTP tokens, so that seems to be a use case. (The keys don't have to be on a phone or in a particular app.)
Re:Guide to Web Authentication by unethical_ban on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @07:57PM (#31843441)
A push token usually means you're utilizing a service such as Okta, RSA, Symantec VIP, etc. whereas RFC TOTP can just be managed locally and the user can choose a 2FA app of their liking.
Re:Guide to Web Authentication by jaywalk on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @02:33PM (#31839957)
Why? We've already got better standards, there's no need to add complexity to TOTP.