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Re:I fucking hate Jira by bamboozled on Monday June 20, 2022 @06:54PM (#31817278)
Which is funny because 99% of what project managers seem to be about is making sure work gets done. So the first thing they do is deploy a hurdle to this by ensuring they use a tool which is time consuming and confusing for the people who do the work (usually developers to use) and enforce it's usage.

JIRA is so slow and the UI so clunky the project managers where I work use some type of spreadsheet upload mechanism with XML spreadsheets to automate the cruft creation. It's fun to watch.

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Re:I fucking hate Jira by ZainRiz on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:22PM (#31817554)
> Which is funny because 99% of what project managers seem to be about is making sure work gets done

Unfortunately, from the project manager's perspective the emphasis is on the words making sure

And Jira lets them think they're doing that

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Re:I fucking hate Jira by bamboozled on Monday June 20, 2022 @10:12PM (#31818990)
I agree this is where it goes wrong. Chasing an nice looking burn down chart.
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Re:I fucking hate Jira by urthor on Monday June 20, 2022 @11:34PM (#31819554)
The issue is that software developers (correctly) identify the burndown chart as useless due to estimation in software being a joke.

Software developers' mistake is not realizing that "linking the tickets" into Epics that managers can search is hugely important.

If the project director has no clue about what tickets people are working on things go south fast.

All developers should agree on that.

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Re:I fucking hate Jira by bamboozled on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:16AM (#31820522)
They don’t because no matter how well my tasks are mapped to tasks it rarely reflects reality.

The only reason stuff gets done as it should it because me and my peers are responsible, and because we have a good understanding of what needs to be done, not because of how things are mapped in JIRA.

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