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Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fnimick on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:15PM (#31816048)
He's also vocally anti-union and actively tried to stop his employees from marketing themselves on personal social media (to stop them from building a following and then leaving, I'm guessing), so I refuse to watch any of his content or support his business in any way now.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by armadsen on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:42PM (#31816419)
I know this is completely subjective, and his millions of subscribers tell me my opinion is far from ubiquitous, but he's also just straight up obnoxious to me. One of those people whose voice, demeanor, appearance, everything, just immediately turns me off.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by Dracophoenix on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:59PM (#31816648)
Because he sounds like the stereotype of a Hot Topic-shopping turbonerd c.2002 ? Personally, I find it nostalgic, and even endearing.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by girvo on Monday June 20, 2022 @06:07PM (#31816764)
I find his semi-rare discussions of 2000s tech nostalgic.

Yes sir, very Atomic. I miss that era.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by p1necone on Monday June 20, 2022 @06:10PM (#31816795)
Yeah it's kinda awesome to me too. I want to travel back in time and go to a lan party with 16 year old Linus.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @09:01PM (#31818446)
It seems like he creates a fun environment at the workplace too. I bet they have awesome work parties.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by bigDinosaur on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @05:44AM (#31822101)
I think he, personally, is largely entertainment. His company does produce some genuinely useful (as in, not total SEO spam) reviews etc. though.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by teg4n_ on Monday June 20, 2022 @08:43PM (#31818280)
Agreed. I always think of his Amazon go video where thinks he “stole” tampons that were actually pads.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by rhyzomatic on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:58PM (#31816634)
Do you mind sharing some links to back up these claims?

Just watched a video [0] where he clearly comes across as being pro workers rights, and against passing prop 22 in California. He seems to be generally pro-union while still trying to point out some general issues with them. He also says he would be "offended" if his employees unionized at LMG, which while maybe is a bit stupid to say, I don't think counts as anti-union.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpyiNOD-MOk

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by bradlys on Monday June 20, 2022 @06:32PM (#31817038)
People should also understand why he said he would be offended. He would be offended because it meant they didn’t talk to him and work with him - and that he did such a bad job as a manager that they decided to unionize.

He’s pro-union - he just hopes he is a good enough boss that his employees don’t feel like they need to unionize. He clarified his viewpoint in later videos. Offended was probably not the best choice of word - and he admits that too. I don’t recall the video but someone can find it. (I’m on mobile and on vacation - idk why I’m even here)

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by 9935c101ab17a66 on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:52AM (#31820823)
Anyone who is truly “pro-union” would recognize that seeing yourself as a good manager/boss doesn’t mean you don’t take advantage of your employees. Furthermore, there is ALWAYS a power dynamic at play that makes it difficult for individuals to speak up about their concerns or ideas for improving working conditions — even “nice” managers will disagree or see certain things as pointless / unnecessary / frivolous. Not to mention, Linus is both the owner AND the manager of LMG, making the relationship between employer / employee even more complex and unbalanced.

Unions are a tool to give individual workers more leverage in negotiations that almost always favour employers / managers.

A side note: Linus could be a great day-to-day manager, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a bad “ceo” if that’s what he calls himself. He can be incredibly personable and kind and supportive, but also have unreasonable expectations about work hours, employee’s social media activities, compensation, etc.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by freemint on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @09:24AM (#31823655)
Do you have a source for the work hours? I had the impression that he very much tries to not ask for more then he pays for. Do you have a source that the compensations at LTT are somehow unreasonable?

As for not having a YouTube channel, i find that a reasonable demand for employees of a company running YouTube channels. They are allowed to do game streaming stream on Twitch and stuff like that.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:42PM (#31817751)
Pro-union but would be offended if his employees made a union?

That's the kinda double speak I'm talking about.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by bradlys on Monday June 20, 2022 @07:43PM (#31817763)
It’s really not. People tend to only form unions when they feel that they’re being unjustly treated and this is one of their last resorts.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @08:07PM (#31817975)
If you're pro-something, surly you'd want people to do it?
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by bradlys on Monday June 20, 2022 @08:40PM (#31818255)
I’m pro-choice - does this mean that I think every fetus should be aborted?
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @09:04PM (#31818470)
No, that would mean you support each woman who wants to have one and you probably shouldn't tell them it offends you if they do. Especially if they depend on you financially and you can break up with them without consequence.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by Germanika on Monday June 20, 2022 @10:32PM (#31819121)
I interpret it closer to being pro-choice while hoping to not personally need an abortion. Unions form when workers feel they aren't being heard and aren't being properly represented. Having a union form at your own company is an indication that you failed your employees in one way or another. You can be pro-union while hoping to personally never need one or have to sit across the table from one.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by framapotari on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @05:44AM (#31822102)
> Having a union form at your own company is an indication that you failed your employees in one way or another.

This is absolutely untrue. A kind of propaganda talking point that paints unions like some kind of vicious weapon that you want workers to have if they absolutely need to defend themselves against assault, but you'd rather not have the assault take place at all.

Unions give workers concentrated power to balance against the concentrated power of corporations. That's it. They are one side of the scale.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by hoseja on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @01:51AM (#31820366)
That's a wrong way to view unions though, a propagandized American way. Unions should really be default and not imply some sort of moral failing about the employer. Sadly they are viewed as such.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @11:01PM (#31819358)
Yeah, pro-choice but hoping not to have an abortion is probably a lot of people's position. But then telling your partner who depends on you financially that it would disappoint you if they had one sorta changes things, dont you agree? Especially if theyre already pregnant.

As for unions, everyone should unionize. It's literally the only way to even out the power dynamic. Good companies, bad companies - it makes no difference. There goal is to pay you as little as they can, so yours should be to get paid as much as you can. Unions make that process easier for the majority of people.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by modriano on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @12:15AM (#31819795)
Pro-choice != pro-abortion.

Pro-choice means every pregnant woman should have the choice and a real chance to abort their pregnancy if they choose. It's kind of right there in the name.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by bradlys on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @10:17AM (#31824214)
Unless you believe children shouldn't exist - almost no one is pro-abortion. So, that's not really an argument that anyone is making, is it?

In the same way people say pro-union - they mean "pro-choice" as in you should have the choice and freedom to form and be part of a union easily.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by 9935c101ab17a66 on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @02:44AM (#31820716)
Pro-choice literally means you think women should be able to choose whether or not they terminate an unwanted pregnancy.

I hope you’re trolling — you’re comment made me lol when I first read it because it’s so misguided.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by framapotari on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @05:50AM (#31822136)
If you're pro-choice then I wouldn't expect you to say that in some cases you'd be offended if the person had a choice.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by framapotari on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @05:35AM (#31822046)
This is an extremely American -- and misinformed -- view of unions. Where I'm from unions are the default, not formed as a last resort to unjust treatment but a natural counterbalance to corporate/institutional power.

Someone saying they'd rather not have their workers form a union is not pro-union. That's like saying you support workers sharing information but you would be offended if your workers talked about their salaries because that would infer that they don't trust you to be fair.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by bradlys on Tuesday June 21, 2022 @10:33AM (#31824392)
Is it misinformed if it’s just generally how they work in the US?
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by junkieradio on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:30PM (#31816274)
I watch one of his employees stream on twitch, I found out about his channel from a Linus tech tips video, I don't think your second claim is all that true.
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @06:12PM (#31816828)
I googled it and there's this. I'm not sure if it's what OP is talking about or not. Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bTHSwBZVNI
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by nighthawk454 on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:52PM (#31816557)
a lot of LMG employees have personal social media and either YouTube or Twitch streams, often getting viewers from fans of their persona on LMG videos. I think the issue is only with competing content and/or leveraging the LMG platform. For example, if an employee started a GPU review channel and called it out in an LMG video, like ok yeah probably not. More like non-compete than some draconian restrictions
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by fartcannon on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:22PM (#31816153)
Ah, that's pretty brutal. Thanks for the information I will keep that in mind. Seems less funny now. :/
Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by dx034 on Thursday June 23, 2022 @04:00AM (#31846272)
Honestly, I would expect that from him as CEO. He only makes money off people watching the channel and subscription numbers are hugely important. Any efforts by employees to gain subscribers for their channels could dilute visitor numbers and subscribers to LMG. And obviously he doesn't want to create competition.

In the end he's still a CEO and the others are his employees, not his friends. For that, he doesn't appear to be a terrible boss.

Re:Contra Wirecutter on the IKEA air purifier by normaler on Monday June 20, 2022 @05:58PM (#31816626)
Can you elaborate in the anti-union thing? I can't seem to find anyone discussing this.