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Re:Don't use Kubernetes yet by icod on Sunday June 19, 2022 @08:41PM (#31805018)
k8s IS complex, not because it's new, which it isn't anymore, but it's so complex that even the developers have lost oversight.

And not just that, it's expensive. It requires a lot of hardware just for the base, 9 servers minimum.

The more complex something gets the harder it is to get done right.

I would downvote you if I could because what you wrote is just ignorant and anyone who dealt with k8s before can tell that you never dealt with it.

Re:Don't use Kubernetes yet by throwaway894345 on Sunday June 19, 2022 @09:17PM (#31805221)
> I would downvote you if I could because what you wrote is just ignorant and anyone who dealt with k8s before can tell that you never dealt with it.

I don't know why you're snarking so hard when there are dozens of managed Kubernetes offerings out there.

> It requires a lot of hardware just for the base, 9 servers minimum.

An HA deployment requires 3 nodes for the control plane, and as many or few workers as necessary. But yes, this is 3 more nodes than you would run without automated orchestration. Of course, the cost of these 3 nodes is amortized over all of the worker nodes, so if you're only running 3 worker nodes you're paying 100% for orchestration, but if you're running 30 worker nodes you're only paying 10% (this is assuming equally sized nodes, for simplicity).

> The more complex something gets the harder it is to get done right.

Right, but if someone else packages that complexity up for you in a piece of software (like Kubernetes or Linux) it's often much easier to get it done right than it would be to roll your own from primitives.

Re:Don't use Kubernetes yet by tene on Sunday June 19, 2022 @10:16PM (#31805619)
If 9 nodes is a lot for you, then I agree that your problems are small enough that manual solutions can be much simpler than using Kubernetes.

You also don't need an angle grinder to open a cardboard box, but that doesn't mean angle grinders are stupid and can all be replaced with a box cutter.