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Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by IncRnd on Friday June 17, 2022 @12:00PM (#31780172)
THat's not how the term "insubordination" is used in the context of employment.

Insubordination also might be "Directly questioning or mocking management decisions". [1]

Another example: 5 insubordination in the workplace examples [2]

  1. Refusal to complete a task
  2. Refusal to come into work
  3. Refusal to remain at work
  4. Disrespecting authority figures
  5. Sabotaging team or organizational activities
[1] https://www.upcounsel.com/insubordination-in-the-workplace

[2] https://www.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/insu...

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Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by toomanyrichies on Friday June 17, 2022 @12:24PM (#31780551)
The authors aren't mocking Musk at all. The tone of the letter is professional yet direct and constructive. As far as questioning "management decisions", the closest example of this that I can find is the mention of the company's selective application of things like the "No Assholes" policy, which seems like a completely valid problem to surface. For the most part, they're questioning his tweets and their effect on employee morale.

As for the 2nd example- which of those 5 points are the letter's authors guilty of? The only one of those 5 that looks even remotely relevant is #4, but even that's a stretch since there's a difference between "criticizing" and "disrespecting".

Musk might believe those two things are one and the same, but they are, in fact, quite different.

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Re:SpaceX said to fire employees involved in letter rebuking... by IncRnd on Friday June 17, 2022 @01:15PM (#31781268)
> The authors aren't mocking Musk at all.

I never said they are, and that's not why they were fired. From the article: "The letter, solicitations and general process made employees feel uncomfortable, intimidated and bullied, and/or angry because the letter pressured them to sign onto something that did not reflect their views," Ms. Shotwell wrote.

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